@ Pro Dom

I think I understand where your coming from but I feel perhaps you have misunderstood my comments in this thread. I do practice Safe, Sane, and Consentual BDSM and do not feel it is in conflict with the gorean ideals. I also think its safe to assume the same holds true with all the goreans I have spoken with in this forum.

I can not speak for all that claim to be gorean of course but as I mentioned in a earlier post, no gorean master I know would want a girl that did not want him. In the books that is pretty much the same as well except when a master desires a girl so as to make her want him. Which of course they always seem to.

I just take it as one of the fantasy vs real life elements that come from writing sci-fi romance novels for the masses. I think thats what I like about the books, you get sci-fi adventure, a good deal of romantic interplay, and some very insightful concepts and philosophies concerning the relationship between men and women.

I and others have merely applied those concepts and philosophies into our lives and in particular our BDSM lifestyles.

I would like to add that I am not perfect in any way and have made a number of mistakes over the years. Most were small ones that caused no problems but I have done one or two loo loos as well. I have tried to learn from them so as not to ever repeat them.

God like, no - Good Master, I think I am.