And I guess I was looking more for signals in the vanilla world, workplace, grocery store, etc., than an a club, and it may be that i's a sixth sense and not something that can be described, but sort of wondering if someone won't look you in the eyes, sort of thing, but that could just mean shy, not submissive, or if someone steps out and lets you go first or holds a door, is just good manners, but what if they look down while they're doing it? I'm new to this, but there are a couple of guys at work I really wonder about, but obviously, couldn't just "have the talk"!