Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post
This belies that you aren't using the word 'punishment' in the same way as virtually everyone else in the lifestyle.

There is discipline and order to be gained from the lifestyle, which creates opportunities to make mistakes or be disobedient... and hence punishment.

If it's part of the play, and we DO play, we're not suggesting otherwise, but if is part of playing, it is not really punishment.

I spank because I enjoy it. I spank because she enjoys it. Spanking is never about punishing her for a misdeed.
Exactly... i agree with Oz and to muddy the waters even further, I learned recently that apparently for me (currently) there is "punishment" which is for a willful act of wrong that i did and "correction" which is the removal of a right for something that was not willful but still not acceptable either. Personally, I see both as "punishment" with one not being as severe at the other. Although I know 2 people who would disagree with me on that definition! Either way I don't see either of those as "play." Play is fun and lighthearted. Punishment or correction gives a sinking almost sick feeling in the pit of the stomach at the thought that one has disappointed for whatever reason.