I'm far too willful to relent to flawed arguments from my Master. I love him dearly, but I would never accept 2 + 2 being 5. I would argue that till I was blue in the face. Why? Because it's wrong. When I disagree with my Master, I'm respectful, but I don't change my opinions or thoughts.

However... Punishments... Yes I do occasionally crave them. I will behave in a less than respectable manner for his attention.

I think some subs want their punishment for their Doms reasons, some of us like to 'cause' them to happen, and others only want them when deserved. It's all in what you like. There is no right or wrong to this particular rant. It's all about preference.