Blind Obedience?

[rsjankowski]

as a control freak and hopefully a intellectual i have mixed emotion on it, as any order i give should be obeyed, for every order is given for a reason, but i agree that if there is a harmful drawback to the owner or sub/slave then yes that person should speak up.

even though a sub/slave attunes thier thoughts toward thier masters to anticipate what they made need or find pleasing, a submissive thereby is a calculating individual, just ask the ones that weigh the balance of how much punishment they may or may not want to justify an action or decision. but i'm sure that even those that obey without hesitation to an order are figuring what the costs may be inside thier head.

i agree there is no weakness in surrender. i once watched a martial arts episode where to win the battle the hero had to yield to his opponent. in yielding i mean the hero is grossly overmatched in strength, but the hero had stamina and speed, something every sub also needs to be able to deal with some of the orders masters give. in any case the yielding is more of like judo where you use your opponents mass and momentum against them, this yielding is steering the problem to a point of least harm to the hero, or in this discussion the master and/or sub/slave. in the matter of speaking up of the drunk driving example the submissive might suggest(steer) that for her to be better able to please her master , she should let him relax and let her drive to the next destinations as the master's mind surely is on more inportant things (wink). thereby still surrendering to the masters will of going someplace else but with probably a far more different outcome.

minus the rare few that for some reason enjoy being a doormat. i do believe the majority will and should keep a little of themselves back just for the basic needs of common sense and survival. as this lifestyle is a matter of give and take . the dominants have to a sense of responsibility to understand one basic thing, for this type of relationship to continue, you just can't carelessly put a submissive at risk as the cost could be a relationship put on hold or ended altogether as anything can happen in a split second. every couple must give and take a part of thier being for the common whole. even a mirror has a back side which supports the image reflected.

as for "kin flicks", i haven't read the book, but i've heard of case studies that closely resemble that subject, and i pretty sure i can akin that as well to actors who have forgotten who they are from playing so many parts and after much thinking on thier part and asking of others take on the persona they think is best.

as for the soldier who disobeys a direct order. it's not normally a good thing. to justify an action in the military sometimes can't be done on just feeling alone other wise you can be shot on the line (this doesn't happen in today's military). but knowing the rules and regulations. and sometimes quick thinking of a logical excuse can save you from doing something incredibly stupid. and as for abraham, blind obedience (faith) tests by God are always rewarded in some way, in that case it was a foreshadowing of the sacrifice that was come later and how it was to God the father sacrificing his own son for the sake of us all.

i guess the relationships we have has a basis in the business world where people say they are going to do one thing or another and then do it. contracts are made and broken. in my case the've been broken twice by 2 different people. and i as the dominant have as a matter of responsibiluty should take the blame upon myself for that failure. but i digress. a person who agrees to do anything told to them has an implied contract that they will do just that regardless of the situation. we all hope common sense would prevail and even though a girl walking down the street naked would be a beautiful sight to behold specially here in rural america. it's illigal. and can wind up on a person's record which may affect their lives down the road. a dom has the moral and the legal responsibilty not to involve the neighborhood in their doings, (unless the neighborhood already knows and doesn't mind that sort of thing. i would love to know where that would be).

as to Offtopic the first one goes without saying. as the rest is done with honor and people generally live by example of how they would say something. minus those unforseen moments of great decisions.

although the act may be illigal. i'm pretty sure it happens even there as well. as people will live the lives they want to lead regardless of what governing body tells them otherwise. in america slavery is illigal, which drives the police nuts when they run across a couple on what do i do as this is a consenting lifestyle. our lawyers i think are still trying to figure this one.

i believe the majority of the time there is a greater satisfaction of being with a thinking individual who can speak her mind. but the quick gratification of a mindless robot has it's place as well. but that is up to the individual couple and the trust, respect, and love and the regulations that they have set for each other and themselves that that should come about.

great topic. thanks for letting me share my thoughts on it.