Bestiality

[Isabelle90]

I'm an owner of large dogs. (Great Dane) I've tried to be a responsible pet owner by doing my homework and learning as much about the breeds that I'm interested in. Apparently, dogs have a maturity level of that of a 2-3 year old child.

I'm wondering if this seeming willingness is really more of a canine instinct?

I won't begrudge anyone their fantasies and/or realities, just thought I'd throw out something more to think about.

Incidentally, I read something in the news a while back about a man that died from internal injuries while having sex with a horse....

A few definitions found on dictionary.com:

n. pl. bes·ti·al·i·ties

The quality or condition of being an animal or like an animal.
Conduct or an action marked by depravity or brutality.

noun
1. the stupid brutal quality of a beast

[wingsofanangel]

this in my opinion is sick, a male dog fucking a woman? thats why men have dicks so you dont resort to useing animals, anythin other than watering, feeding, taking for walks, giving it a pat on the head(fuss) and making sure it has a warm suitable place to sleep, i see as abuse.

if you argee with fucking animals, or animals fucking you, then just before you kill yourself prey to God in hope you are reincarnated as the opposite sex of the animal you want to fuck, then you wont be sick and twisted any more.

Well its just plain wrong. Most normal (sane) people would thinks its extremely sick and a sign of a twisted and distorted mind.

What is wrong with people??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

While I don't enjoy this myself and in fact do find it contradictory to many of my own personal beliefs and morals.... I don't think you are being very kind.


People are expressing their own feelings on it.. which is fine no matter where you stand on this issue, however I think your words are uncalled for.

You must remember you ARE on a BDSM website that YOU signed up for.... most "normal" people as you put it would think you are extremley sick and twisted for being here.... and might say"WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!"

So uhm.. yeah maybe you should be just a tad bit more respectful. We try not to point fingers here or ever make anyone's fantasies or kinks be embrassing or shameful.


It sound weird saying this on a BDSM forum but.. be more open minded. Maybe you don't agree but you don't have to be rude about it.Not to mention Rover you've already stated your opinion I think we got your point.

and Blossom... I feel similar I don't think this si something god would approve of however..

I don't think he'd thinking showing off yer Hoo-ha to the world or many other things you.. I.. and others do...

One sin isn't better than another.. so if you're going to bring God into it atleast look at the over all picture and not just the select few that are offensive to you.

I just wouldn't want anyone's feelings to get hurt because careless words were thrown around.

My two cents.

[_ID_]

Well its just plain wrong. Most normal (sane) people would thinks its extremely sick and a sign of a twisted and distorted mind.

What is wrong with people??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Some people would say the same thing about BDSM. What about the snuff stories on this site, some people would say the same thing about that. What about knife play, what about oral sex, what about... well all of it.

[blossom]

anythink that i do or my partner does its done by agreement on both parts,

when you use an animal you are manipulating it it do doing somethin which it may think is right, animals put their trust in us, and anyone who thinks this is ok, i would personaly disagree,

when did you see a rino and elephant gettin it on? never

keep to you own breed.

and if i wanted to show of my "hoo-ha" thats by MY permission, god didnt make adam and eve with clothes now did he?

[wingsofanangel]

I'm just gonna leave this alone cause my ass isn't getting canned over this one..

I'm just saying.. there is a way to say what you want and be tactful...

[chettah 12]

Well every body to their own I suppose, but its not for me! I"m up for almost any human to human sex ,so to say but lets leave animals out! I have an open mind an don"t look down on people who get in to that kinda thing but its not for me, I have enough fetishes already. But everybody dances to a different beat I suppose!!!

[Flaming_Redhead]

This is y'all's only warning to remember that your personal opinion is just that, and insults against other members will NOT be tolerated. If you find this thread personally offensive, then stay out of it! It's rude to call an entire group of people "fucked up" just because you don't like their kink. The next one who does will be banned whether it's flaming a specific person or not. Also, this is not the thread to discuss your religious views. The Vanilla Life forum on Religion and Philosophy is the place for that, which is why I'm not going to comment on how morally wrong some might see it to use profanity and expose yourself.

Not one word.

[~faerie~]

This is y'all's only warning to remember that your personal opinion is just that, and insults against other members will NOT be tolerated. If you find this thread personally offensive, then stay out of it! It's rude to call an entire group of people "fucked up" just because you don't like their kink. The next one who does will be banned whether it's flaming a specific person or not. Also, this is not the thread to discuss your religious views. The Vanilla Life forum on Religion and Philosophy is the place for that, which is why I'm not going to comment on how morally wrong some might see it to use profanity and expose yourself.

Not one word.

Thank you for stepping in. It was getting quite rude. Every one should be respectful as this is all about pushing limits in yourselves in however you and your partner see fit.

[Jack_The_Trainer]

Animals are "bred" all over the world. Vets and other "professional" people stick their fingers hands and some cases their whole arms in a varity of orifices ,while the animal is either drugged or restrained with out the animals permission for the purpose of artificially inseminating them. does this not constitute sexual abuse, rape and a whole heap of other charges if it was done to a human with out thair permission? And yet this is legal And for what purpose? Monetary gain? Is that so much different than sexual gratification ?
Like i said in a previous post, not my scene, but please look at the "whole" before you go running others down for their "left of centre practises.

[Widget]

i have to add in a thought here as well, well two really.

1 An animal does not have the feelings about the sex act that humans do. If the animal is not physically harmed it is not going to be mentally traumatized by the sexual play.

2. Male animals, dogs are probably the most common one in bestiality play, have an alpha view of life. Top dog gets the sex, the food and the rule of the house. If the dog is fucking you, you are now lower that the dog is for the pack mentality. I think it could cause significant issues if you are dealing with a very dominant animal.

[Isabelle90]

Some people would say the same thing about BDSM. What about the snuff stories on this site, some people would say the same thing about that. What about knife play, what about oral sex, what about... well all of it.

Reading all of the opinions on this thread has been enlightening. However, as IDCrewDawg is saying, we really shouldn't pass judgement. I'm certainly not going to run up and down the streets of Indiana proclaiming my sexual preferences, but this forum feels like a safe non-judgemental place.

My father always used to say, "opinions are like butt holes, everybody's got one." Throw them out, but please do not belittle someone else in the process. I'd like to keep this place a nice educational and entertaining place to come to. Everyone seems so nice and open!

[mkemse]

ok so yeah this doesnt really have anything to do with bdsm but it's sex and well.......

so we all know what beastiality is. for the most part, i think, this is still an extremely taboo thing.

but i have a friend who recently "came out" about his avid interest in beastiality. he even admitted to exploring it. and me being the open-minded little freak that i am, i couldn't help but ask more about this fetish. cuz whereas i know what it is, i've never actually met someone that was interested in it.

and apparently, in the beastiality community (and yes there are several) there's this big debate about animal rights. some people think that it's wrong, abusive towards animals for them to engage in ANY sexual activities with a human. and obvisously other's don't.

so i'm starting another debate.

i don't think it's wrong for a male dog to fuck a human, so to say. i mean.....i don't really see how a human could FORCE a male dog to engage in sexual activites with another human. i guess training could be involved but still, doesn't seem wrong. it does seem wrong to me, for a male human to fuck a female dog. i mean......it's kinda hard to determine if a female dog enjoys that sorta thing. plus....it may hurt...size and all.

so this debate is more focused towards......do you think it's wrong to involve animals in sexual activites? not really, do you like beasitlity....although feel free to voice your opinion about that aspect too.

2 things I have found on the subject, number 1 animals CAN NOT impregnate humans, the other is that aside fromones personal opnion on the subject, aside from not beeing my thing, bestiality is AGAINST THE LAW

enough said

[newby]

So is anal & oral in some states...but i break those every chance i get

[_ID_]

2 things I have found on the subject, number 1 animals CAN NOT impregnate humans, the other is that aside fromones personal opnion on the subject, aside from not beeing my thing, bestiality is AGAINST THE LAW

enough said

Where?

[wingsofanangel]

From WIKI

Zoosexual acts are illegal in many jurisdictions, while others generally outlaw the mistreatment of animals without specifically mentioning sexuality. Because it is unresolved under the law whether sexual relations with an animal are inherently "abusive" or "mistreatment", this leaves the status of zoosexual activity unclear in some jurisdictions.

Laws on zoosexuality in modern times are often triggered by specific incidents or by peer pressure.[11] Whilst some laws are very specific, others employ vague terms such as "sodomy" or "bestiality" which lack legal precision and leave it unclear which exact acts are covered. Other factors affecting the operation of law include enforced assumptions as to abuse, creative use of alternative laws, and the impact of uncodified cultural norms, prohibitions, and social taboos. In the past, bestiality laws were mainly put in place for religious reasons and the assumed possibility that sex with an animal could result in monstrous offspring, and were primarily concerned with the offense to community standards.[12]

Currently, the legality of bestiality varies greatly around the world. It is legal in some countries, such as Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands, while it is illegal in Great Britain (for penetrative acts), Canada, and much of the United States, Australia and New Zealand. Countries such as Belgium, Germany and Russia are in between the two as they permit sexual activity with animals but strictly prohibit the promotion of animal-oriented pornography.[13]

Notable legal views include Sweden, where a 2005 report by the Swedish Animal Welfare Agency for the Swedish government expressed strong concerns over the increase in reports of horse-ripping incidents, and gave as its opinion that current animal cruelty legislation needed updating as it was not sufficiently protecting animals from abuse, but concluded that on balance it was not appropriate to call for a ban. [20], New Zealand where the 1989 Crimes Bill considered abolition of bestiality as a criminal offense, and for it to be treated as a mental health issue.[14] In some countries laws existed against single males living with female animals. For example, an old Peruvian law prohibited single males from having a female alpaca.[15]

A more detailed list of countries and laws can be found at zoosexuality and the law.

[_ID_]

Thanks wings. The point of my response was that people shouldn't be so closed minded to think that just cause their country is conservative, that every jurisdiction holds the same laws for the same situation.

[TheVariableX]

If you can lock them in cages and slaughter them for food I really think it's a little silly debating if having intercourse with an animal is cruel. Maybe I was attacked by an animal when I was young but I don't really care about animal rights, especially when there are enough humans deprived of their human rights.

Personally I have enjoyed reading stories with women performing bestiality. There is something very primal, degrading and forbidden about it.

[thezigg]

Well last time I checked most dogs have really sharp teeth. If they object to the sex I do believe it may bite you. If not I think they are willing enough.

[gagged_Louise]

2. Male animals, dogs are probably the most common one in bestiality play, have an alpha view of life. Top dog gets the sex, the food and the rule of the house. If the dog is fucking you, you are now lower that the dog is for the pack mentality. I think it could cause significant issues if you are dealing with a very dominant animal.

Excellent point Widget, this really would matter if one would want to have sex with one's dog, or have the submissive fucked that way. Especially larger dogs like boxers, German sheepdogs and - bulldogs.

By the way bestial (slight changes in spelling) in many languages does mean inordinately cruel, sadistic (in a non-sexual sense)

[nina]

become wet my pyssy to read forums

[fee]

Hi Nina do you rearly get turned on about sex with animals or is it just the thought of doing it that makes you wet? Fee

[dirtygirl]

please forgive my naive ignorance, but my question is sincere, out of curiosity.
Are there no health issues related to having sex with an animal?

[blythe spirit]

There are, I'm certain, diseases that can be transmitted through semen, urine, saliva, etc. Not to mention fatal allergic reactions, such as anaphylaxis.

However, I've heard from animal lovers that a dog's tongue is cleaner than a human's. *shrugs* Never researched the veracity of that, though.

[locopup]

I dont knock anyones fetish. As I like all kinds of bdsm activities. But I am against beastiality for the fact that humans in alot of cases would be forcing the animale to have sex. So in a way they are raping a cat, dog, goat, bird, or whatever. So yes, I see it as abuse and illegally in most of if not all areas of the US.

[FatherTimejr]

One of my personal largest...turn ons? fetishes? I dont know, fantasy's in the end is femaleH/maledog sex. Now I agree that forcing an animal that is unwilling to act, is abuse, I do not feel that a dog who willingly, albeit perhaps not through his intelligence but more so instinct would be abuse.

I mean a dog who feels the instinct to mate, and the need and desire, isnt wholly different from a really horny guy. Why not let him at it? not to mention the tongue, if he feels like taking a taste, I dont see whats wrong with it.

Now i CAN understand women not wanting to participate, I mean to each there own, I like to watch and so on. Ive found that especially in fantasy roleplays and such with it, writings and such, ive found that alot of women find it to be a very primal sort of fantasy, perhaps not one they would live out, but none the less a strong one.

Whether or not an animal can choose I think is essentially irrelevant, due to the fact that if they have no need mentally to choose, if their instincts lead them into that action and they participate then they are fine. And most dogs if they dont want to, wont participate and/or will fight back.

Someone posted, and im not sure, about their being problems with realy dominant alpha dogs. I WILL give this a point, if you are going for it with ah...larger animals often times, it CAN be a problem, in that the dog can take to her like shes well...his bitch...and ive read occasions where the husband is attacked by the dog for trying to fuck the wife. So this being said you either need to train the dog well, or make sure the dog is tame enough to not have this issue.

But either way I find it to be an extremely extremely hot fantasy and were I to find a female partner interested in including it...welll...-halo-

[blythe spirit]

Well, FTjr., I'm guessing you're not alone in your thoughts as the internet is alive and well with sites on just this very thing. And whilst, there might be some women/men that enjoy this activity, I'm certain that most of the videos/pics, etc on these sites doing what they're doing are probably well-paid actors.

You say, you "enjoy watching." I'm interested in the turn-on this activity has for the viewer. Does it cause the watcher to become aroused? (well, duh, apparently so or these websites wouldn't exist lol) But I guess I want more detail as to what thoughts goes through the viewers mind when watching. Care to share?

[FatherTimejr]

wow it took me several drafts to respond blythe.

Part of me enjoys watching I think a great deal just because of the I dont know....beastial side of it, especially in a female girl/male dog, theirs something....I dont know, its hard to describe, but seeing the dog jsut go at it and her enjoying it so much is just incredibly attractive on so many levels.

Another part of it, it seems to me to have a very...well, dominating feel to it the way it happens at least with the dogs, and in the terms of thinking of if I had a sub and it wasnt a hard limit etc...and I think someone mentioned it, but it seems it could be one of the farthest steps of submission, submitting to do that, and imagining that occuring is part of it as well.

Ive done alot of online scenes and such with subs involving situations like that and so forth so it has alot of added conotations (sp) for me.

I hope that made sense, if it doesnt, and as I think about it, i'll continue with this but well...yeah!

as well I dont believe any of this applys to everyone, it took a great deal of time for ME to come to terms with the fact that its something I enjoy.

[blythe spirit]

Thank you FTjr. This subject is for many, taboo; therefore, it was very brave for you to come forward and admit your pleasure.

Whilst your post made sense, something is still not clear to me. You state that you enjoy watching the submissive derive pleasure from the act and in the next paragraph suggest that it may be a "hard limit" for her and would prove her ultimate commitment to submit to you.

If, indeed, it's a hard limit, why do think she'd be enjoying the act? Could it be that knowing she's not enjoying it and doing it despite how much she's repulsed by it, is exciting to you, because she's doing it for you?

[FatherTimejr]

no, what I meant in that second paragraph is considering if it WASNT a hard limit for her. While I like to push boundries I also very much respect a hard limit, and so no in my imagination it would be a situation where it wasnt a hard limit for her.

Though there are have been times in some of my dealings with subs over the web and such where she had never done anything even in her imagination with beastiality and to her was a soft limit, but was willing to experiment for me, and at the begining it did seem to repulse her some, but then she REALLY got into it, and in the end found she really enjoyed it. Happened twice I think if I remember. That being said, if it had turned out not to be something she enjoyed I would not have continued.

Now...if it was a hard limit and she willingly consented to it....well honestly I hadnt really thought about that. I might enjoy it from the mere fact that she did it for me, to prove her loyalty, but im fairly sure I wouldnt derive the same sexual pleasure as I would otherwise.

[Snark]

Having watched a few (maybe more than a few) videos of this activity, it seems fairly apparent that a 140+lb great dane or rottweiler isn't going to to be forced into a sex act that he doesn't want to do. Quite the contrary, every single one of them is eager, willing, almost frantic to do the deed. It certainly doesn't seem like they are enduring a lot of abuse.

Snark