Actually, I have no real issue with punching either when practiced in a safe manner... but edge play isn't for everyone. I actually said nothing about actual damage being done, merely that there is far more of a risk with some tools than with a face slap. I suppose that, yes, *some* do not no how to handle one, but really anyone who knows singletail can do it- it's no different. In my Master's case, he's been working whips since he was 10 years old... so it's not a big concern to me. I think your reactions are far outweighing what is being said by me, and I'm not sure why. <shrugs and adds face slapping to her list of beloved edge play>