Quote Originally Posted by cariad(CC)
I am not surprised, because frequently the actions are the same. The difference is the motivation behind the actions.

cariad
Not necessarily cariad... I might have the very best of motives, trying to create an excellent, edgy scene, and have it well received by some subs and not appreciated by others.

But it is definitely in the eye of the beholder... It's abuse if the sub takes no enjoyment from it... even if that enjoyment is no more than being pushed to your boundaries... the act itself may not please but being pushed and pleasing your master may be pleasing to you.

Remember the things you wouldn't have believed you were capable of, early on, that you do routinely today? Were they abusive then but not now?