A movie that made you mad ???

[gagged_Louise]

I was watching Videodrome tonight and i was enjoying the movie i was not really thinking about what was going on. And then it hit me "it kinda stereotypic al of its veiw of bdsm (alittle) but you can still see it." This did not get me mad ( i still love the movie) but it gave me an idea. What movie did you hate because of their veiw of bdsm. It cloud be anything from 8mm or even hellraiser; both of which i love., but, some may not. So theres the question; what movie you hated because of its image of bdsm.

P.S. I know Videodrome is more snuff and body horror but there is still alot of bdsm scences in the movie.

I think Videodrome was a brilliant movie, not particularly the bdsm moments as such (Debbie Harry being hung up and whipped etc) but more the way it poses questions about sex, intimacy, loneliness and virtual reality. The film was made ten years before the internet broke through but it picks up some issues that only the web (and the social changes of later years) have really made pertinent. Max wants to change things in a way, he sees himself as a rebel entrepreneur but he's really the hooked prey of what he meets on tv and in this shut-off reality, the fantasies that he is fed.

He's a rather damaged guy, can't trust anyone and can't rest in anything of what he sees or build any kind of steady relations. I don't think that was a comment from Cronenberg on fetish relationships, it's more about how people become expendable in some parts of the media and in an image-stricken way of life. Nikki Sixx's Heroin Diaries could be read as another version of the same state of mind.

I have big issues with Pat Conroy's The Prince of Tides, issues that would probably be even greater with the movie if I saw it - again, not bdsm issues as such. I liked parts of the book very much, the southern stories of Savannah and her brothers are sensuous, raunchy, funny, richly textured and emotional without being teary-eyed - they have a dead-on satiric edge too: the chapter where Tom meets Herbert Woodruff at a simmering cold party is a satiric masterpiece - but the core of the book felt bogged down in some sort of melodramatic kitsch overkill. It never really explains why Savannah goes schizophrenic, the book seems to buy into some muddy linking of madness, suffering and genius and the psychologist and her love affair with Tom ultimately wrecks the book - no psychologist in their right mind enters a love affair with a patient or confidant, that's an absolute no-no. And the overdone rape/killing scene with the tiger does nothing to explain things.

Someone said about the film that it's really "a romance masquerading as a story of mental illness and healing" - could be true, but then it seems to me Savannnah would be largely a redundant character or designed to pull readers into the story. When the author sneaks off her, it's a move that would eat at the focus of the book.