i agree totally with myst, and would also say that for me anyway it is not possible for me to open up fully without real trust and openness, this results in genuine intimacy and understanding.

Now whether this can be defined as love, or not, who am i do say, i am not an expert as to what the correct definition is.

However i can say that this results in my caring deeply and feeling a very close bond and connection to my Domma or sub, so as myst points out, yes i feel not only is there a need to care about the person, but ultimately i am sure that the intimacy and bond will develop into real love, no doubt in my mind.

obviously it is different to a degree for everyone, that is what makes a world after all however for me personally a good Domma or sub is one who feels connected, and in order for this to happen they must care and maybe yes even love their Subs or doms.

I could not envisage a situation whereby i had a sub or a Domma that i thought did not feel so for me, as has been said why would i invest the time, effort and emotional energy in the relationship if that was the case.

Thank you myst the best 2 cets worth of opinion i have seen for some time, real value.