Excellent explanation and way to show what this forum is all about TwistedTails. I agree with much that has been said. To me Sadism is a means to an end and much incorporated into our BDSM world today. I know I often use pain in training and disciplining of my little Kitten. However she is a pain slut. Many of the true masochists left are referred to(at least in my world) as pain sluts.