right, lets put phobias aside and discuss common ground.

Yes id agree that seeking out other humans and forming packs of sorts is a natural instinct.

How we conform in packs thou cant be all instincts and even if so. it does not explain a 7 foot athlete submitting or a scrawny dom. If pack mentality were indeed all there was to it we would all or most of us, in some mannor give domination a try and upon failure we would submit, till we see signs of weakness and give it a second go.

I have met few people that i belived to be all dom or sub. Even if they were telling the truth (could be unaware of some issues) i still put it down to upbringing over genetics.

Simply because submitting by genetics does not promote success or mating in a pack of animals and thus would have been bred out long ago.

Possibly now that i think about it. If we bred women to be submissive because this promoted pack/society stability, one could argument that male subs are simply a form of men seeking female roles. Not unlike homosexuals or transvestites... Best not get carried away with that idea.