Oh and to add about "paying money" there are shit loads of forums out there where you do have to pay, they are always popping up, as we found out a few months ago. Anyway, if you go out to events you pay, play parties you pay, rigging classes most times you pay. Not alot but you have to pay to get that information that person is trying to teach you. Sadly, everyone is trying to make a dollar and its just the way things are right now. Personally, I want to be one of the few female riggers out there that get paid to tie people up. How do i intend on becoming an accomplish rigger? By attending classes, getting personal instructional classes, most of those classes you have to pay. I will have to find me a rigging bottom but rigging sluts are a dime a dozen, so that wont be to hard. I just have to be proactive, get out from behind my computer screen and out there in the real world. I'll have to attend rope classes, munches, parties etc, just to get my name in the game and my skills up.