Quote Originally Posted by IDCrewDawg View Post
A heavy flogger, or rubber flogger could severely bruise the skin if used correctly and for a long enough time. Even then with extensive bruising, it wouldn't be punishment, unless the mindset of the submissive were to be directed in that way.

Any action taken by a Dominant can be used as a form of punishment, or pleasure. Where the mind of the submissive is, is what drives if its punishment or pleasure.

I totally agree. The same applies to spanking. It is in the mindset. although with a flogger depending on the sharpness of the blow it can make a difference behind the intent.