Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
But he's using the authority of God's word to make his "suggestions" which to many of his followers is equivalent to law. You don't obey God's word, it's a sin, isn't it?

Judge yee not lest the also be judged. God is the final arbitrator I beleive in any event. The words of one vicar gods law does not make. Again you equate the individual asshole with all the divine power, when in fact that isnt the case.

I wonder, are you saying the vicar or any religious adherent shouldnt have freedom of speech?



And why doesn't he proclaim the part of scripture which tells people to do their praying in the privacy of their own homes rather than in public (church)? Maybe because that would remove a lucrative source of income?

To be honest I dont even know why they have churches at all except for the whole Peter being the rock thing and the where ever two or more of you gather thing. As for people wailing in public, thats their beeswax, but you wont see me do it unless its in a designated area for just that, like at the wall in isreal. (the later streatching it imho)

And what are his qualifications for helping people with their marriages? Every marriage is different and it can take a lot of one-to-one work with couples to learn what might work for them. Telling the woman to submit may work for some couples, but not for all. (My wife would laugh in the guys face!)

I wouldnt presume to know what his personal qualifications are, nor do I presume to know what the cualifications are for radio talk show hosts and tv personalities who freely hand out the same blanket advice.


All quite true, but when you throw religion into the mix you are, as I said, speaking with the authority of God, for those who believe. That's far more powerful (for believers) than invoking Einstein or Darwin or Reagan.
I dont know, go sit in on a convention or scientific seminar with an open mind and just observe sometime and watch the people there and when they start throwing around big liberal or conservative dogma names or mentioning well respected reaserchers and or theories at some conventions and you see the exact same kind of reverence and zealotry in the eyes of those "faithful" as you see at communion table (or kkk cross burning for the racist bastards) when the people there are getting their sacrements.

Fundamentalist zealotry is by no means the purview soley of religion.