Tourguide, I beleive We are both on the same page. THough Our perspectives may be differnt, I think we actualy agree.

THis was a two part question. I focused on one point you took the other. Thank you, I was a bit too tired last night. My appologies to Jones, Nikka.

Now I am not so vain as to think that there is only one person that any one given submissive can submit to. I do see it as a gift, you do not; but that is only Our difference of interpretation. Sorry, the heart of a poet sees it as a gift. *grin* But that discussion is not for this thread.

Thanks, Tourguide for your input and thanks to Jones for startign this discussion.

LT