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  1. #9
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    Originally posted by Cleo671
    The question that still remains for me is whether or not those that have suffered traumatic experiences in the past... can not only trust, but be fully comfortable with their personal choices knowing they have made a choice based on knowing themselves as people and not making choices out of 'need' of some kind...
    In other words -and I fully agree with Cleo671- it is still up to each sub to know themselves well enough to make safe choices. Submission is not en excuse for low self esteem and low self esteem is not an excuse for submission or abuse. A hard choice for all concerned
    I wonder how other subs see this dilemma.
    Last edited by Jones, Nikka; 11-16-2003 at 02:21 AM.
    Do not do unto others as you would like them to do unto yourself; rather do unto others as they would like you to do unto them.

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