Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
It shouldnt matter all that much anyway if the United States has any claim to it's own principles any more:

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill,
that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship,
support any friend, oppose any foe to assure
the survival and the success of liberty."

J.F. Kennedy
Words are so cheap!

In Europe the politicians are so busy getting their heads in the news to applaude the fight for democracy in the Middle east, but what they say behind their hands is 'we must make sure they select someone we like - who will sell us oil.'
They talk about the bravery of these people who fight, but what they covertly say is 'but we don't want all the fugitives, that could cost us money!