Sefl worth and submission

[Austerus]

Heya fyre,
I was responding more to some of the follow-up messages in the thread than to your original one. I think you're on point with your message, and I think it's an important one for people to see, believe, and internalize.

I am also not trying to say that a sub should be dumb/ignorant, unable to learn, unable to have a conversation, or unable to provide companionship. I was expressing my belief that there's nothing wrong with a dom being "a higher class" and/or "smarter" than his sub. There are of course a lot of sources of value, and a lot of kinds of class, but I was referring particularly to social/professional class. I don't think there's anything wrong with a dom being wealthy/upper class with a sub who is poor/lower class, or that there's anything wrong with them both being aware of and acknowledging that. In fact I think it's kind of hot. (Judging by some of the stories in the library I'm not the only one). If that means that the sub is more of a homebody and can't effectively participate in some parts of the dominant's social or professional life, I don't think there's anything wrong with that either.

Regarding intelligence, my "pick 2" quote was meant to be some tongue-in-cheek humor, and as I said I'm certainly not in favor of someone too dumb to learn things or who can't carry on a conversation. I would much rather have someone who was interested, creative, and proactive about finding ways to make me happy. Frankly though I don't need a rocket scientist for a girl. I have very little in the way of rocket design needs. If a girl _happens_ to be a rocket scientist, and can either balance her intellectual life with serving me or can get her intellectual fulfillment just from serving me? Well ok, awesome...but in a sub, for me, I value high levels of sweetness, obedience, loyalty, eagerness to please, (yes) self-worth, attractiveness, and other qualities more than I value high levels of "smart."

On the topic of breeding/pedigree, again I wasn't talking about the inherent worth or coolness of a person, but rather a person's social/economic class and the level to which they can easily fit into or circulate in the same circles. I don't think "well-bred" people are smarter (quite the opposite) but I do think that people who are either themselves very professionally driven or who come from particular backgrounds have an advantage in social/business interactions in professionally driven and/or wealthy circles. It's not a value judgment.

I'll bow out of the thread at this point if you like, as I think it's an important topic that you've presented well and I don't want to distract too much from it with sidebars. If you would like to carry on the conversation in a separate thread just point me to it and I'd be happy to participate.