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[Thorne]

Sorry, but it is:

All of those may ADD to the law, but Jesus specifically stated that he was not abolishing Mosaic Law, or the law of the Prophets.

[denuseri]

All of those may ADD to the law, but Jesus specifically stated that he was not abolishing Mosaic Law, or the law of the Prophets.

No!.. none of them add to the law...they just explain the law allready in existance.

You are trying to use sophistry yet again to twist what was written. When Jesus told them that he wasnt here to change the Law...its becuase it didnt need changing...becuase Love...loving thy nieghbor as thyself...was allready the law!

[Thorne]

No!.. none of them add to the law...they just explain the law allready in existance.
You are trying to use sophistry yet again to twist what was written. When Jesus told them that he wasnt here to change the Law...its becuase it didnt need changing...becuase Love...loving thy nieghbor as thyself...was allready the law!

No sophistry involved at all. Mosaic law was far more involved than just that one statement, however noble it may be. Mosaic law also involved the preparation of foods, what kinds of clothes were permitted, how to treat one's bond-servants (slaves), and much more. The context of the Biblical text there makes it quite clear that Jesus was assuring the Jewish priests that he was not changing or discarding Mosaic Law.

[denuseri]

No sophistry involved at all. Mosaic law was far more involved than just that one statement, however noble it may be. Mosaic law also involved the preparation of foods, what kinds of clothes were permitted, how to treat one's bond-servants (slaves), and much more. The context of the Biblical text there makes it quite clear that Jesus was assuring the Jewish priests that he was not changing or discarding Mosaic Law.

Actually, it doesnt make anything clear other than...he is out right telling them that they were misinterpeted the Law if they didnt keep the law the way he called for it to be kept. Which means not throwing stones if you have any sin and loving thy nieghbor as one's self. Love is the basis for all of it.

[Thorne]

Actually, it doesnt make anything clear other than...he is out right telling them that they were misinterpeted the Law if they didnt keep the law the way he called for it to be kept. Which means not throwing stones if you have any sin and loving thy nieghbor as one's self. Love is the basis for all of it.

That's your interpretation. Which is fine. Others interpret it differently. Which is also fine. Some, the real hardcore fundamentalists, say the Bible is the literal word of God, not subject to interpretation but is absolutely true in every word and phrase.

The interesting part is that none of you can gainsay the others, since none of you have any evidence that your particular interpretation is any more right than the others. You each interpret according to your own feelings and beliefs. Many have those beliefs instilled in them from birth by their parents and priests. They believe they are right because they've been TOLD that they're right by others. They don't question, they don't think about it, they just parrot their elders.

The sad part is that many of them have no real clue as to what they are advocating, especially the literalists. They figure the Law is just the Ten Commandments, and that's all they worry about. In fact, Mosaic law involved hundreds of requirements, at almost every level of life. The most common answer I've heard from these literalists when confronted by this fact is, "Oh, those laws were nailed to the cross. They don't apply to Christians." Yet they have no basis for this claim other than they don't want to follow them.

Sadly, that's religion in America.