Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
Until there is acceptance that both sides have a valid set of rules, the competition cannot really begin.
The rules are very simple, really. Provide compelling, testable evidence for your beliefs. That's it.

I'll go first. I don't believe. Therefore, no evidence needed.

Why do I not believe? Because there has never been any compelling, testable evidence for the existence of gods. I don't claim that there are no gods, just that there is no evidence for them. So prove me wrong! Show me the evidence.

And claiming that the gods cannot be measured because they are beyond the scope of science is just a cop out. If that were true then there would be no mechanism whereby people could even know that they exist, or what they want. If they interact at all with the natural world then they are not outside the scope of science. If they do not interact with the real word then they may as well not exist.