I think the problem here is Thorne is wishing to re-define the rules of logic, the rules of grammer, create whole new definitions for the words in use or not use but a portion of a definition etc....simply to avoid having to make any consession that his view has no more validity that that of any given theists; and instead of swallowing his pride when he is called on it...he decides to do the sophistry two step.

Which in effect makes any attempt to actually disscuss the subject with him...not worth the effort.