
Originally Posted by
Thorne
I've given plenty of evidence, but just for you:
- Virtually every supernatural explanation for events in the world has been explained as being NATURAL events.
According to who? And what says that it wasn't "god" who cuased the event using natural means?
- There are hundreds of different religious sects around the world, perhaps thousands through history. ALL of them differ among themselves as to the nature of God.
If anything it looks to me as if more and more they move to one day coming to a consensus as too the "nature" of god. And what "god" wants us to do as a species. So thats not evidence of anything other than many different people having different opinions and perspectives and has zero to do with weather or not a god or gods exists...so much as what that god/s is and says we are to do. If anything its much more compelling evidence for the existance of such rather than against it.
- Despite thousands of years of trying, theists have not been able to provide a single compelling bit of evidence FOR the existence of gods. Lots of stories, many claims of visions, but no hard evidence. And even many of the stories (Noah, Moses, even Jesus, for example) are eerily similar to stories from earlier religions.
If your refering to Genisis and the Tale of Giglimesh that makes sence sence Abraham was from the city of Ur, so its quite natural those people and the jews have similar stories for the creation and flood...not too mention, the flood tale in one form or another is pretty much an allmost world wide ppenomena which only makes it more compelling. And your leaving out all the eyewitness testemonies made by countless people that were recorded sometimes directly by the people themselves (like Paul in the Bible) etc. We historians and anthropologists often have even less evidence to go on than things such as that which were written by people and left behind or preserved. Additonally there are Biblical scholars and scientiests who would flat out say your wrong and that many such things have been found (like the temple of solomon) confirming eneough in their learned opinions to be just as valid as any other assumptions conserning mans past made by non-biblical scientiests...like where Troy was or how Julias Ceaser died.
- Descriptions of God have become weaker. The Biblical God used to destroy blasphemers, villages, cities, whole nations, with a single word. Hell, he supposedly destroyed the whole world in a fit of pique. Now? "Where the Bible tells us God once shaped worlds out of the void and parted great seas with the power of his word, today his most impressive acts seem to be shaping sticky buns into the likenesses of saints and conferring vaguely-defined warm feelings on his believers' hearts when they attend church." - Ebon Muse
Back to trying to insult people again I see. Your also leaving out the very strong descriptions of God that go on every day according to many other peoples viewpoints...so strong infact that billions of people world wide feel compelled to believe them. Again your evidence is nothing more than a matter of personal opinion. A rather blasie paper tiger of sophistry with no "real" teeth.
All of these, and many more, provide pretty compelling (to me, anyway) evidence that God, as defined by his believers, not only does not but CAN NOT exist. Whether or not some form of supernatural deity DOES exist is, of course, impossible to determine. As many have said, such a thing is beyond our ability to determine. What CAN be determined is that such a being does NOT interact with our world in any measurable, meaningful way.