Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
According to who? And what says that it wasn't "god" who cuased the event using natural means?
According to science! And you can claim that gods caused anything and everything! That doesn't make it true, only wishful thinking. Unless you can provide EVIDENCE that god caused it, using whatever means, we have to assume these were completely natural events.

So thats not evidence of anything other than many different people having different opinions and perspectives and has zero to do with weather or not a god or gods exists
No, but it's pretty compelling evidence that the gods as defined by their believers do not exist.

If your refering to Genisis and the Tale of Giglimesh
No, not just the tale of Gilgamesh. There are many different stories, from Babylon, from Egypt, from Greece, which predate the Biblical stories. Including many of the supposed attributes of Jesus, such as the virgin birth, the visit of the Magi, the resurrection. Part of the pattern we see throughout the history of religion is people taking older stories, dressing them up to accommodate their own beliefs, and claiming them as evidence for gods.

the flood tale in one form or another is pretty much an allmost world wide ppenomena
Not surprising, since floods happen all over the world, and when you have virtually no contact with anyone more than 10 miles from home it's natural to assume that a very large, destructive flood (similar to what's happening in the US right now, in fact) is worldwide! Do we see any geologic evidence of such a global flood? No, not at all. Just more stories.

And your leaving out all the eyewitness testemonies
No, I'm not leaving them out. They are anecdotal, not evidence. They're a good place to START looking for evidence, but they don't comprise evidence in and of themselves. And the problem is generally that, once you start looking for the evidence to corroborate a story, you come up with empty hands.

like Paul in the Bible
Not a good choice as an eyewitness, I don't think. There is reason to believe, based on his own writings, that Paul was sick when he was struck blind for three days. In fact, he was probably ill for most of his life. It is possible that his entire basis for his conversion and subsequent teachings were based on nothing more than a fever dream, or a seizure of some kind. You want to base your religion on that? And Paul also believed that the Second Coming of Jesus was going to happen IN HIS LIFETIME! Got that one wrong, didn't he?

Additonally there are Biblical scholars and scientiests who would flat out say your wrong and that many such things have been found
Yes, there have been findings which show that the Bible has SOME historical significance, I've never denied that. There have been NO findings to support any of the RELIGIOUS claims put forth in the Bible, however. And some of the major characters in the Jewish and Christian theologies have NOT been shown to have existed anywhere outside of the Bible, including King David, Moses and Jesus Christ.

billions of people world wide feel compelled to believe them.
So if billions of people believe them they must be true? How about only one billion? Would that make something true? Well, according to this site there are about 1.1 billion "Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist" people. I guess we have enough numbers to satisfy your requirements?

The numbers of people who may or may not believe something is irrelevant to the truth of that belief. How many people actually believed the Second Coming was going to happen last month? Didn't happen. How many people still claim to believe the world will end in 2012 because of the Mayan Calendar? Doesn't mean it's true.

So what makes you any defferent from a thesist...what makes your opinion the only right one?
I've NEVER claimed that my opinion is the ONLY right one. I leave such absolutes to the theists. And what makes me different from a theist is that I don't base my life on tales from ancient books and the maundering and blathering of well-dressed con-men.