Religion or Atheism? An open forum.

[denuseri]

Oh I am well versed in differentiating between reputable sources and their counterparts...even had formal trainning on making such distinctions in college, you dont get far there without making good use of that skill set.

Supporting the American tradition of seperation between Church and State however doesnt require that one be demeaning, belicose, sophistic, or disrespectful of one's opponents and their beliefs or go on a campaign to abolish their first amendment rights.

Such an attitude and approach doesnt support a secular state and only fans the flames against it, breeding intolerance.

And a non-secular state, a state with only one belief system (which need not be religious in nature) appears to be exactly what the athiests are actually "preaching" for...your own rehtoric in many cases in several threads including this one clearly shows that.

And regardless of your wishes to the contrary, atheism when used in such fashion is in every way defined as system of belief. It may not be religious in nature, one may call it a philosophy, but it is a belief system all the same since it takes on all the qualities there of.

And based upon how the athiests comport themselves in expression of thought, word, and deed its an anti-any religion system of non-belief centered around the abolishment of any and all things even remotly religious, that obviously includes not allowing parents to have their children even raised the way they wish in their own faith or anyone anywhere to be able to publically speak about or display iconography in support there of until all religions everywhere are abolished and replaced by what the athiests want in its stead.

Which I can only imagine will resemble something like what happened in all other states who adopted such a poliecy...religious persecution, fear, and terrorism of the poulace...mass punnishment...all for what one believes as opposed to what they do.

Which is imho quite ironically hypocritical of the atheists all things considered.

I base my position soley on what I have witnessed not only here from you but via direct observation in many other venues including books written by pomiment atheists and other academics about the subject.

When one says they want seculaism our of one side of their mouth while they then do everything intheir power to oppose it, one in effect becomes imho just as bad as any religious zealot since it appears then that what one wants in actually practice is something based upon their own system as opposed to secularism to become dominat.


Which is why I personally take a dislike to such zealotry becuase it makes them in every way the same as the worst of those they take their views against, it makes those athiests who take such a stance just like those who cuased so many of the colonists who first came here to flee the religious persecution in Europe as evidenced by all the people who fled religious persecutions in the countries where similar systems were adopted in modern times as well.


And thats why every single time you slam religion or anyones belief system or philosophy in such manner, especially when they dont really hurt anyone by having it...I will respond accordingly to defend their right to have it and freely express it, and to tech it to their children or anyone else who is by the laws we hold dear considered to be under their dominion.