Excellent points all across the board, and ones I wish more people in the community (and outside it) realized. In the same way that a female submissive isn't, or doesn't have to be, a 'worthless victim' or passive doll .. male subs are by no means weak or unmanly. In a lot of ways I think it must take even more strength for a good man to embrace his submissive side and bring to it all the best qualities of himself, as it takes for women to do the same. The social stereotypes and 'shame' associated with male submissiveness can't be easy to deal with, and I've always respected the rare man who can endure that to be himself.