one of my fantasies

[BruceBoxer]

I've been to the Nazi death camp at Dachau--it is really beyond belief that such evil could occur among civilized people in modern times. That being said, I see so problem with somebody finding erotic pleasure in fictional renderings taking place during amid the time of the Third Reich--to each his/her own as long as it does not infringe on the liberty of another.

[vanessa]

I've been to the Nazi death camp at Dachau--it is really beyond belief that such evil could occur among civilized people in modern times. That being said, I see so problem with somebody finding erotic pleasure in fictional renderings taking place during amid the time of the Third Reich--to each his/her own as long as it does not infringe on the liberty of another.

As a Jew I disagree. I'm all for a good domination story, but Nazis cross a line. Now I'm a white female. I happen to find stories where whites are being oppressed by any other group to be very erotic. I love humiliation, and those types of stories add to the humiliation. Hell I love stories where humans are pets/slaves to aliens, for the same reasons, only expanded a little. However I draw a line at my religion. I just cant get wet at the thoght of Jews being treated like slaves, mainly because it has ACTUALLY HAPPENED many times, and has caused my people a great deal of suffering.
Maybe, MAYBE, if the story and setting was completly fictional I could get into Jews being dominated. However in a real setting where 6 million of my people were murdered in cold blood after being tourtered (REAL tourture) and many more tourtered to the brink of death, it just isn't erotic. It's wrong. The same is said for stories that take place on slave plantations in the south prior to the Civil War. A line has to be drawn somewhere.

[Kaori-san]

I have to agree with Mobius, vanessa and who ever else thought this wasn't a fantasy they could have.... i know enough about the Nazi's to know they're just sick, the things they did are and were horrible. Slaughtering so many... the camps and such... not nice, basing a slave story about something that actually happened, like the slavery of blacks, the Nazi regime or the happenings in the middle-east now is something i could not read about.

[Mad Lews]

Were my opinion might not be needed but.
I know the Nazis were despicable, so are a lot of protagonists in BDSM stories. Real slavery is unacceptable today (except in parts of Africa and southern Asia) but it was the norm for most of human history. The Romans were cruel and barbarous by today's standards but they brought modern civilization to Europe. My point is that some subjects might seem beyond redemption as far as erotica goes but they really just make the story telling a bit more of a challenge for the author. In any event while there are a few universal erotic fantasies, this site seems more dedicated to those that are more unusual and unique, It would be unreasonable to expect them to appeal to everyone. I for one would hesitate to cast stones, but if I were to think of a subject without any erotic possibilities I'd have to mention….uhm never mind
Mad Lews

[pejanon]

To each his own?
Ah, but Nazis (and similar) WILL NOT give anyone else - 'their own'. (Unless one considers destruction, imprisonment, unwilling slavery, reshaping as acceptable means.)
Why should Nazis get the chance to spread their poison?

There is some tendency in fiction (not necessary erotic) to portray Nazis AS KIND OF SuperDOMS.
THEY ARE NOT!
While erotica abounds in stereotypes - and I admit to being guilty enjoying some of them - THIS one - especially if it involves Jews as natural victims should really be out. Too sensitive and unnecessary _ can't you think of some fantasy scenario that will satisfy your needs and will not tamper with such sensitive material?

I do think that this site could do without it - but, surprise! I am glad then even such stories were NOT banned (with some other that I personally feel disgusted with). Even such material has its place in Library. That's what makes it so good.

Nobody mentioned very poplar story on this site - Group XS? It utilizes Nazis AS SuperMasters stereotype and victims and subjects of interrogation are labeled as Jews. (Hmm I am probably promoting the story now. lol)

And - this opinion has nothing do with what someone might find erotic. I do not think there is ANYTHING under the sun that at least someone does not find erotic. So there!

Just an opinion. and apologize if it is too strongly worded.

Pej

[Prpackaged]

There seems to be two paths on this thread. There is the path of condimnation of the actions of an historical occurence and a path that examines how best to use background in a story line. I am pleased to see that we accept that the Nazi concentration camps did exist and that people (sub-humans and super-humans ) did act in ways that need to be condemned. Fascinating, is it not, that the Nazis would deprive themselves of one of the joys that experience by denying themselves the sexual/sensual side of their acts?
On the other hand, we enjoy a side of sensuality that the vanila world would definitely condemn.

I would think in terms of what I find enjoyable in a story. A big turn-off is the story where the impossible occurs. Think of the act of removing a hand yet having the victem continue of for several chapters without passing out or dying. Think, also, of the cop or cowboy in the movies who never seems to run out of bullets. A scene set in a plausible background is very appealing. A scene set in an impossible background is not. Naze stories where there is sensual/sexual contact have been destroyed for me now that I have been informed that the super-race would never have that type of contact. I think that those who enjoy that type of background as a part of a story or fantasy or story are looking that what can be believed as possible and that the story line is more enjoyable as a result.

[pejanon]

To each his own?
Ah, but Nazis (and similar) WILL NOT give anyone else - 'their own'. (Unless one considers destruction, imprisonment, unwilling slavery, reshaping as acceptable means.)
Why should Nazis get the chance to spread their poison?

There is some tendency in fiction (not necessary erotic) to portray Nazis AS KIND OF SuperDOMS.
THEY ARE NOT!
While erotica abounds in stereotypes - and I admit to being guilty enjoying some of them - THIS one - especially if it involves Jews as natural victims should really be out. Too sensitive and unnecessary _ can't you think of some fantasy scenario that will satisfy your needs and will not tamper with such sensitive material?

I do think that this site could do without it - but, surprise! I am glad then even such stories were NOT banned (with some other that I personally feel disgusted with). Even such material has its place in Library. That's what makes it so good.

Nobody mentioned very poplar story on this site - Group XS? It utilizes Nazis AS SuperMasters stereotype and victims and subjects of interrogation are labeled as Jews. (Hmm I am probably promoting the story now. lol)

And - this opinion has nothing do with what someone might find erotic. I do not think there is ANYTHING under the sun that at least someone does not find erotic. So there!

Just an opinion. and apologize if it is too strongly worded.

Pej