I understand what pushed your buttons there, Timberwolf. As SB said, even if you don't share the kink in question, Tojo, we're trying to keep this an open forum for discussion of any subject without judgement. You might not like it for yourself personally, but please be more careful not to pass judgement too quickly.

I hope we'll get this discussion back to the original question - so far only Ruby seems to have any information to share....anyone else?