As I stated above in 2003 I purcased a new Poniac Vibe. Aside from a factory defect or two which the Dealership screwed up fixing three or for times.( I could have fixed it myself if not for warrenty issues.) It's been the best car I've ever had ( 245000 Miles ) and still going strong. I have no interest in paying (loaning) private companies with tax money and plan on voting against any of my represenitives that do. The State of Michigan and city of Detroit have been a study in fiscal missmanagment for decades and any " LOAN" given to the auto industrey should include a movement of production out of that area. This is just another plan to save a Blue state while producers in Red states such as Tennessee and Alabama will get the shaft. I'm not really sure of my direction of my rant at this point no one in my family is usually listening this far in, all good union men, so if any one has an opinion on this stuff i'd love to hear it.