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Mishka
08-23-2007, 09:37 PM
I didn't know where to put this, so here it is...



This week I was put on cum restriction for the first time. It's actually not a punishment this time around, but that's hard to explain.

My mistake was that I read a very provacative, beautiful, arousing, sensual (getting worked up just remembering it) story. I told myself to stop and kept reading. Things just flashed in my head and of course, the week I'm not supposed to be thinking these incredibly wonderful thoughts, is when I do and start to get worked up.

The trick is distraction. It must be. So here it is...the cum restriction support thread where we can confess we're getting tempted (too many details would probably not be a good idea) and be brought kicking and screaming (ok, we shouldn't scream, too erotic) back from the temptation. No holding each other down either, also too nice a thought. We need to discuss whatever it will take with the sub for us to truly be turned off.

Don't be mean you members who do not have this discipline. :dont:

My fantasies are getting to me...tell me I am not needy, fragile, soft, or...(stop it!)

kestrel
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
My darling sister......we both know how hard it can be once we are restricted. That seems to be the point where we want to explode the most. Of course, everything from something as innocent as a cucumber at the grocery store looks good at this point. ~giggles and blushes~

Ozme52
08-23-2007, 10:46 PM
Be glad you're only on restriction and not denial.

(I count the difference on whether or not you are also commanded to masturbate.)

jeanne
08-23-2007, 11:17 PM
Cum restriction is evil. Horrible. The spawn of the devil. And I've never even been on it. Just the sound of it makes me cringe. And I won't even mention what Oz did - the "commanded to masturbate" one (see, I can't even write it), that's the epitome, the apex, the pinnacle of evil.

Never, never, never me (please?),
jeanne

Mishka
08-23-2007, 11:21 PM
My darling sister......we both know how hard it can be once we are restricted. That seems to be the point where we want to explode the most. Of course, everything from something as innocent as a cucumber at the grocery store looks good at this point. ~giggles and blushes~


Thanks...I'm about to go to sleep with cucumbers on my brain. :32:

jeanne
08-23-2007, 11:28 PM
Oh, we need to replace that with something else. Let me think......I started to be funny mean, but I can't do that to you.

Just remind yourself who you're doing it for and how pleased he will be with your success.

Austerus
08-23-2007, 11:30 PM
Better than cucumbers in your...whoops, wasn't supposed to be mean. Umm...stay strong! (and remember, I bet you'll be amply rewarded for being good)

Warbaby1943
08-24-2007, 05:31 AM
During A CR I think there should always be masturbation to the edge and then forced to remain there for a specified period of time, maybe 5 to 10 minutes to start with. Plus this must be done at least 2 to 3 times a day until the CR is lifted. That way you keep in mind what you are missing. It would be easy to just forget all about cumming if there were nothing to remind you of it. What good would a CR be if you didn't still want to cum? LOL

I do hope this is the kind of help you were looking for. WEG

tessa
08-24-2007, 07:55 AM
Cum restriction is evil. Horrible. The spawn of the devil. And I've never even been on it. Just the sound of it makes me cringe. And I won't even mention what Oz did - the "commanded to masturbate" one (see, I can't even write it), that's the epitome, the apex, the pinnacle of evil.

Never, never, never me (please?),
jeanne

Hear, hear! Amen! Same exact sentiment from me!

Get thee away from me, cum restriction/denial/minimalization/anything-that-keeps-it-from-full-access-to-me.

But to help Mishka-lish...

No air-conditioning. :28: If that doesn't turn you off, nothing will.

~huggles~

:wave:

cadence
08-24-2007, 08:21 AM
No air-conditioning. :28: If that doesn't turn you off, nothing will.


Am I the only person in the world who absolutely hates air conditioning?

I would explain why I like being hot, sticky, sweaty and such, and it's just not coming out in that non sexual way I intend it to.

Anyway as for CR, it is simple, pretend that you are not on it.
Have you ever noticed that when you are allowed to frolic with yourself all you want, you don't go overboard, in fact you don't really think about it all that much.
When you are told you can't, of course it's the only thing that occupies your mind.
So make yourself believe that you are not on CR, and you won't feel so tempted and frustrated.

Rhabbi
08-24-2007, 08:32 AM
My love,

This CR is only a phase, and will soon pass. I will tell you though that I have rarely seen you as exciting, passionate, and sexy as you are now. I do wish I knew a way to make this easier for you, but the way you get hot and bothered by the smallest thing actually makes me want to make this a more permanent thing.

One thing that has always worked for me is the thought of a swim in an icy cold lake. This also helps to cool me off on those hot summer afternoons.

tessa
08-24-2007, 08:35 AM
Am I the only person in the world who absolutely hates air conditioning?


Yes.

:wave:

Dorkalicious
08-24-2007, 09:20 AM
I have to admit CR is much better then CD.......*writhes about* Gah...

Logic1
08-24-2007, 11:35 AM
*support*
things is though, that I am in complete agreement with Warbaby.
Ill admit that it turns me on though lol

margaret
08-24-2007, 12:12 PM
You mean some of you people actually get off of restriction?

*tries to remember the last free orgasm she had and fails*

Distraction is key. Just don't think about anything (because sooner or later everything is pervertible) - or better yet get sick. Nothing kills libido like a bad cold. But whatever you do, don't have your dominant order you to go through Sir Russell's thread in the erotic photos section and pick out the good ones *fumes*.

And I also hate air conditioning. It's too dang cold!

nightsilver
08-24-2007, 12:14 PM
You mean some of you people actually get off of restriction?

*tries to remember the last free orgasm she had and fails*

Distraction is key. Just don't think about anything (because sooner or later everything is pervertible) - or better yet get sick. Nothing kills libido like a bad cold. But whatever you do, don't have your dominant order you to go through Sir Russell's thread in the erotic photos section and pick out the good ones *fumes*.

And I also hate air conditioning. It's too dang cold!

*laughs sadistically*

cadence
08-24-2007, 12:22 PM
And I also hate air conditioning. It's too dang cold!



Yay!!! Now I can start a I Hate Air Conditioning club, there may be others.

Maybe Tessa has it wrong, turn on the air conditioning to super high, and let your sensitive parts freeze up a bit.
No feeling, no worries

margaret
08-24-2007, 12:25 PM
Unless you happen to like ice applied down there ... wait ... *runs around in circles screaming "Not thinking not thinking not thinking"*

cadence
08-24-2007, 12:39 PM
Unless you happen to like ice applied down there ... wait ... *runs around in circles screaming "Not thinking not thinking not thinking"*

lmao, damn I forgot about fun time with ice.

Well unless you are a big time massochist, you can try out my b/f's dumb yet almost could work method:

When you are preoccupied with something and want to stop, bang your head against a wall, really hard, or some other sensitive body part.
You now have to think about your massive headache, or other boo- boo, and why in the hell you would follow the instructions of a smart ass.
It will definately take your mind off of orgasms for a bit.

Ozme52
08-24-2007, 02:51 PM
During A CR I think there should always be masturbation to the edge and then forced to remain there for a specified period of time, maybe 5 to 10 minutes to start with. Plus this must be done at least 2 to 3 times a day until the CR is lifted. That way you keep in mind what you are missing. It would be easy to just forget all about cumming if there were nothing to remind you of it. What good would a CR be if you didn't still want to cum? LOL

I do hope this is the kind of help you were looking for. WEG


Because just telling them they can't puts the urge in their mind. It becomes a constant mental irritation that travels to their nipples and then to their genitals. And even if they don't touch... the urge grows and grows and grows.

Then you force them onto denial. Make them touch themselves over and over again. Did I mention the urge grows and grows and grows?

Ozme52
08-24-2007, 02:52 PM
Cum restriction is evil. Horrible. The spawn of the devil. And I've never even been on it. Just the sound of it makes me cringe. And I won't even mention what Oz did - the "commanded to masturbate" one (see, I can't even write it), that's the epitome, the apex, the pinnacle of evil.

Never, never, never me (please?),
jeanne

Is that a request I'm detecting? :blurp_ani

Ozme52
08-24-2007, 02:58 PM
Hear, hear! Amen! Same exact sentiment from me!

Get thee away from me, cum restriction/denial/minimalization/anything-that-keeps-it-from-full-access-to-me.

But to help Mishka-lish...

No air-conditioning. :28: If that doesn't turn you off, nothing will.

~huggles~

:wave:

Another request?

But tell me tessa, and mishka for that matter... wouldn't that single drip of sweat coursing down your stomach, over your abdomen, sliding over your mons and down between the folds of your vulva, wouldn't that single solitary weighty drop of perspiration gliding over your clit be worse than some nice cool AC blowing and cooling off your hot steamy....

Did I mention? that growing urge?

Ozme52
08-24-2007, 03:02 PM
Am I the only person in the world who absolutely hates air conditioning?

I would explain why I like being hot, sticky, sweaty and such, and it's just not coming out in that non sexual way I intend it to.

Anyway as for CR, it is simple, pretend that you are not on it.
Have you ever noticed that when you are allowed to frolic with yourself all you want, you don't go overboard, in fact you don't really think about it all that much.
When you are told you can't, of course it's the only thing that occupies your mind.
So make yourself believe that you are not on CR, and you won't feel so tempted and frustrated.

Posh. Well of course. That's the point of CR. To remind you of your sexuality and sensuality. Constantly remind you. If you pretend you're not on it... you'll miss out on the purpose of it. It's not a punishment. It's a training exercise. I want you to become a sensual being. If you already are... I want more.





Growing.....


------

This post officially made me an official sci-fi TV show. One of the 4400.

Can you guess my "special" power. weg

annie
08-24-2007, 03:02 PM
Oh Oz... you are SO SO SO cruel... in such a fun evil way! lol

kestrel
08-24-2007, 05:50 PM
Thanks...I'm about to go to sleep with cucumbers on my brain. :32:

As long as I can be on the rest of you ~evil lil giggle~

wingsofanangel
08-24-2007, 06:19 PM
I remember once when Ocean and I were a D/s online couple I went nearly a month I think it was.

Oh my gosh.. sometimes it was so hard... I would be beyond provoked and then NOTHING... or he would let me see something of my favorites things (him.. ehehe.. and just incase you ladies don't know he is quite fetching)

I remember being in tears because of frustration... but then I learned to get off on NOT getting off... in a mental way. When he said I could I didn't want to.. I wanted to hold off.. push myself.. my limits.. him... Knowing that this was one of the toughest tests I'd go through made it soooo worthwhile...

try to change your mentality on how you view it. It is not easy. I know.

Occasionally I miss those times.... :(

-anya-

Flaming_Redhead
08-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Have you ever noticed that when you are allowed to frolic with yourself all you want, you don't go overboard, in fact you don't really think about it all that much. When you are told you can't, of course it's the only thing that occupies your mind. So make yourself believe that you are not on CR, and you won't feel so tempted and frustrated.

Um..speak for yourself! I used to do it several times a day.


You mean some of you people actually get off of restriction?

*tries to remember the last free orgasm she had and fails*

I think I've been on CR since March or April. I can't remember exactly when it started because it wasn't presented to me as actual CR per se. At least, I didn't perceive that was what it was right away. I see VoodooMan fairly regularly, at least once a week unless there's a problem, and he just asked me to save all my cum for him and said he would save all of his for me. Of course, at the time, I didn't realize this was a permanent thing....and that he could make me feel so guilty for getting turned on enough to want to cum by anyone/anything else....PPFFTTTT DAMN DOMS! Oops! SHHHHHHHHHHH I won't say that TOO loud 'cause I'm not on CD. When I see him, he makes sure I cum several times before he does. *nods a lot* I love my Daddy! He's the bestest Daddy in the whole world! *smiles sweetly* I like saving all my cum just for him!


Posh. Well of course. That's the point of CR. To remind you of your sexuality and sensuality. Constantly remind you. If you pretend you're not on it... you'll miss out on the purpose of it. It's not a punishment. It's a training exercise. I want you to become a sensual being. If you already are... I want more

Exactly. He said he wanted me addicted to his cock, and I am. I can't get enough. *mutters something about not getting enough* But it's not too bad 'cause at least I do get it. *smiles brightly*

*wanders off grumbling about evil wizards and bisexual wannabe friends asking for cookies*

cadence
08-24-2007, 08:18 PM
So, is any of this actually helping you out Mishka?


This thread makes me kind of glad I don't have a Dom, seeing that I would probably fail at CR, I just don't get it.

*runs off to do "stuff" not involving CR, Denial, or edging!* :)

tessa
08-24-2007, 08:26 PM
Maybe Tessa has it wrong

~sighs~ I'm wrong in so many ways and for so many reasons.

But I refuse to admit to wrongness when it comes to air conditioning.

And Red, I got your cookies. :p

:wave:

Flaming_Redhead
08-24-2007, 08:59 PM
Cookies? *perks* Well, now I have a reason to come over! *ggls*

Ozme52
08-24-2007, 09:37 PM
So, is any of this actually helping you out Mishka?


This thread makes me kind of glad I don't have a Dom, seeing that I would probably fail at CR, I just don't get it.

*runs off to do "stuff" not involving CR, Denial, or edging!* :)

That's part of what you learn cadence. You'd get it before too long. :cool:

Mishka
08-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Ozme...you are a cruel, cruel, Dom. And you were spot on correct:


To remind you of your sexuality and sensuality. Constantly remind you. If you pretend you're not on it... you'll miss out on the purpose of it. It's not a punishment. It's a training exercise. I want you to become a sensual being. If you already are... I want more

Rhabbi:
I will tell you though that I have rarely seen you as exciting, passionate, and sexy as you are now. I do wish I knew a way to make this easier for you, but the way you get hot and bothered by the smallest thing actually makes me want to make this a more permanent thing.


It felt like a punishment at first, but I think I'm starting to understand what You're trying to do through this.

slaveangel{HM}
08-24-2007, 09:46 PM
During A CR I think there should always be masturbation to the edge and then forced to remain there for a specified period of time, maybe 5 to 10 minutes to start with.

Plus this must be done at least 2 to 3 times a day until the CR is lifted. That way you keep in mind what you are missing. It would be easy to just forget all about cumming if there were nothing to remind you of it. What good would a CR be if you didn't still want to cum? LOL




Grrr that is always what Master has me do, he thinks in the same way. Ah the injustice, but the point is made...it does remind me of what I am missing and when I am allowed to again after more teasing in this way (the longest i have ever been on CR is 2 weeks and nearing the end of it I was a emotionally uncontrollable mess) it makes me more greatful and much closer to my Master when he says the words "Cum girl."

Cum restriction reminds me of my place and of my obedience to Master. Now sometimes I do fail, and I remember documenting this on the forum at one stage...

http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8459

...and it does eat you up inside, but it does bring me and Master closer together. Especially after he gives me the order, the feelings and emotions afterwards between us are something remarkable.

annie
08-25-2007, 01:50 PM
and of course... at the store today, this conversation flashed through my mind and I couldn't resist buying a few "choice" veggies.... *weg*

kestrel
08-25-2007, 02:26 PM
LMAO annie! You go girl!!!

Warbaby1943
08-26-2007, 10:17 AM
and of course... at the store today, this conversation flashed through my mind and I couldn't resist buying a few "choice" veggies.... *weg*Olives and radishes, for what?

Austerus
08-26-2007, 10:29 AM
WB...obviously she meant loose leaf spinach, some capers, and a large cabbage. Olives indeed.

Ozme52
08-26-2007, 10:39 AM
..........growing.......

Warbaby1943
08-26-2007, 10:58 AM
WB...obviously she meant loose leaf spinach, some capers, and a large cabbage. Olives indeed.Oops my mistake.

tessa
08-26-2007, 11:05 AM
Cookies? *perks* Well, now I have a reason to come over! *ggls*
You need a reason?? :32:

I really have been giving this cum restriction thing a think over (in support of Mishka-lishous and because it just fascinates me). The idea that it's used to heighten an awareness in sensuality does allow me to perceive it in an entirely new way.

I am a highly sensual being. I exist within my sensuality, basically. This aspect of myself is a pervasive force in my thoughts actions and daily goings-on. Sometimes to distraction. Ok, lots of times to distraction. ~looks over at Red~ Oh, be quiet. :blurp_ani Most times, then. Anyway, the thought that I could be taken even further into that part of myself...wow.

Wow.

And the insight into the Dominant mind about the subject is equally as intriguing. Perhaps a bit more so.

I do love a good ponder. And watching Mishka learn is just hot.

:wave:

badlyguidedlittlemis
08-26-2007, 11:45 AM
I have only just experienced cum restriction - as in, the first time today. I never thought I would like it at all, orgasm denial was something I said to him I would never want. I do not think he will deny me for very long, or fully unless it was punishment. But then again, who knows what the future holds!

But anyway, back to today, as you do, get all cosy, playing a little - getting terribly horny, and he tells me he is going for a shower. I was to touch myself until he returned, but not to cum...

I was a little taken aback by it, but did as instructed, it felt like the longest shower ever!!!

But oh my god, when he returned and I got to cum some time later, it was marvellous, and now I understand why it is used - well, why he uses it.

I will watch this thread with interest.

I wish you all well with it, I may be joining in more as he trains me up on this 'test' of obedience.

Rhabbi
08-26-2007, 01:50 PM
I really have been giving this cum restriction thing a think over (in support of Mishka-lishous and because it just fascinates me). The idea that it's used to heighten an awareness in sensuality does allow me to perceive it in an entirely new way.

I am a highly sensual being. I exist within my sensuality, basically. This aspect of myself is a pervasive force in my thoughts actions and daily goings-on. Sometimes to distraction. Ok, lots of times to distraction. ~looks over at Red~ Oh, be quiet. :blurp_ani Most times, then. Anyway, the thought that I could be taken even further into that part of myself...wow.

Wow.

This was exactly my intention in imposing this on her, to increase her sensuality as well as her sensitivity. It has actually succeeded beyond my expectations, something that I am sure that anyone who knows Mishka would not be surprised by.


And watching Mishka learn is just hot.

You have no idea tessa, none at all. You should try it from where I sit.

cadence
08-26-2007, 02:43 PM
I am beginning to understand the whole idea of CR a little better, and sorry to everyone, I should stay away from things that I have little understanding about.

But all in all it is good for the learning curve.

I still fail to fully comprehend the whole concept because,
A) I don't have a Dom, Master, or other
B) I am selfish when it comes to orgasms, when I am continually left frustrated I need to quell that frustration.
C) I tend to separate my submissiveness and BDSM activities as separate

I am submissive (a service submissive), yet whiny, stubborn, and headstrong. Not great qualities for a sub, but probably a challenge for a Dom.

I experiment in BDSM with exhibition, and humiliation, through role play.
I can incroporate my submissive side into any role play, but that ends when the role play ends. Any CR done is treated in an entirely different manner, it also ends when the role play ends.

I would think that my relunctance to fully appreciate CR, is due to the fact that I think it requires a committed and close relationship between two (or more) people, who want to fully explore the advantages of it.

So sorry if I exasperate anyone, I try and stay quiet, but most times I don't.

I understand why the Dominant chooses to do this, but I would be curious though as to how Mishka feels about it, or any other submissives that do go through the CR process.

Logic1
08-26-2007, 03:03 PM
dont be quiet cadence. If everybody would be quiet nobody would learn anything ever.
Mishka might actually revel in the feeling of submissiveness that she gets from the CR process and grow within.

and as for your qualities. Well you might need a good Dom to handle you but then again you might actually change some if you found a good Dom. Not change in a bad way either but change in a good way.
Living and learning is a way of growing as a person and this is one of the ways to grow as a submissive.
+ there is simply nothing sexier than an excited woman.

moptop
08-26-2007, 04:55 PM
MY goodness - I'm both sad and glad I didn't find this thread before today. I've been on cum restriction - defining that as my orgasms are his, my playing is his, not to happen if he's not around - for - well, since May. I've also been on cum denial for a lot of that time - edging exercises or vaginal muscle exercises.

I was set free for 3 weeks while he went on holiday - but, well, I only cracked once, I kept myself for him otherwise.

I have just (last night) finished a 16 day stint of cum denial, during which he has put me through some of the most excruciating and arousing and difficult stuff in the world ever. That's the longest I've had to go. Yes, I ended up in tears, begging him to let me cum or stop. He was so nice. He let me stop. *fumes, growls, wails*

But last night, we were due to see eachother (and that is one of the reasons he'd been working me up quite so hard; bastard bastard bastard) and he had to cancel. So he came on line and - after having made me work first - let me cum as much as I liked, any way I liked.

I needed it very, very badly. But I was also very proud of myself, for having managed to hold off despite severe provocation (and believe me, there had been some very seriously erotic stuff going on); and I was fascinated by my own reaction, when I broke down and wept and begged and grovelled... completely not like me at all. I have never been like that before. Some sort of barrier broke in me. He was very proud of me, too. Oh, not the grovelling bit, lol. But - I think he still enjoyed it!!

The only down side was he was staying at friends and his modem automatically shut off at midnight, just when I was in the middle of my first free wonderful orgasm - I was so disappointed when I finally looked at the screen again (yeah, bit carried away...) and he'd gone! And, I knew I wouldn't be able to carry on as much as I'd have liked without him.

Well... I did manage one more... it was a complete blinder :D But only because I knew he wouldn't mind, and wanted me to have my pleasure.

Is this helping Mishka? Hmmm - I don't know. Just that... I have learnt from it. Learnt just what a mess I can get into! Learnt that I can still over-come it. Learnt that he is aware and does care (I mean I knew that, but I know it more). Learnt... that I don't want to cum without him. My orgasms are his. They are better with him, for him. I cum much more than when I used to just masturbate alone. Even the extra one I took once he'd gone, was only after some 20 minutes deliberating, and deciding that he really had meant it when he'd said I could cum as much as I liked, how I liked. And of course I told him about it.

I can sometimes find it difficult to cum, or to cum in a satisfying manner, when I've been on cum restriction without denial. Denial makes it... oh my... so very very good when you finally get it! You just... open yourself totally.

The main thing is - don't listen to Oz!! DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. HE IS EVIL!!

Ozme52
08-26-2007, 05:27 PM
The main thing is - don't listen to Oz!! DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. HE IS EVIL!!

I know in your heart you love me. :icon176:

Slade
08-26-2007, 07:21 PM
Cum restriction can be one of the most useful practices a dom can place upon a sub/slave. It can be hard for the person to deal with, the need to fullfill the passion and need that the body has, especially if the Master is teasing his pet. But it can be quite an enjoyable experience, it builds the desire, the need, the want and the aniticipation when you can finally cut loose and when you do. *Grins*

There is nothing like seeing how good a pet can behave while under such restrictions, especially when you allow a single finger to trace up and down their back...it can drive them wild and more than a few will not be able to contain themselves.

Alex Bragi
08-26-2007, 07:44 PM
You know, in all seriousness, I have never understood female cum restriction. Male certainly, but not female. I mean, I frequently have what I can only describe as wet dreams. I tell you something else, they often feel so real they're almost as good as the real thing. So, how can a woman avoid these?

Slade
08-26-2007, 07:56 PM
The mind is a powerful thing, it operates in ways we can not even comprehend and when we sleep it wanders to and fro on so many things. How many of us can remember full dreams or only pieces of them. How can a person avoid wet dreams, honestly if they are going to have them than they are going to have them.

Results have shown that people who thought they were getting medicine felt better at times, it was a case of the mind being convinced it was getting helped for the body thus the person responded. Dreams are no different, you can not avoid that which you have little control over. Seldom do people realize they are dreaming and able to take control of it.

Mishka
08-26-2007, 08:15 PM
And watching Mishka learn is just hot.

You have no idea tessa, none at all. You should try it from where I sit.

i'd love to be where You sit, so You could see it live and in person...and i could see Your reaction. ;)



Originally Posted by tessa
I really have been giving this cum restriction thing a think over (in support of Mishka-lishous and because it just fascinates me). The idea that it's used to heighten an awareness in sensuality does allow me to perceive it in an entirely new way.

I am a highly sensual being. I exist within my sensuality, basically. This aspect of myself is a pervasive force in my thoughts actions and daily goings-on. Sometimes to distraction. Ok, lots of times to distraction. ~looks over at Red~ Oh, be quiet. Most times, then. Anyway, the thought that I could be taken even further into that part of myself...wow.

Wow.

A short background to it: Rhabbi was having me masturbate as often as i could, thinking of him, and have the release i need. Well, real life happens, it went quite a long time for the "real thing", and I was tired. I didn't like it, I couldn't cum, if I thought of Rhabbi I would cry because he wasn't there. I had no interest in masturbating what so ever.

So just when I thought He would relieve me of my trip in the desert, it turned out to be a mirage. He thought cum restriction would be a better help to my lack of sensuality. I thought it was punishment, instead I'm glad He did it.

The first orgasm after this short restriction was the best orgasm I've ever had in my life. This is going to sound sappy and a poor stab at poetic, but there was a complete difference from the orgasms I've had before...ever. Those are red, hot, powerful energy behind them, animalistic, primal and the noises to go with it. This one was unique. It was blue, cold, from the top of my head down to my vagina, gentle, soft. I felt more amazingly feminine, completely lost in slavery, my voice caught in a whimper, or more like a kitten's soft mew at the end release.


My orgasms are his. They are better with him, for him.

Ozme52
08-26-2007, 08:42 PM
I train to create a hair-trigger response, and have been very successful doing so.

Mishka
08-26-2007, 08:49 PM
What do you mean "hair-trigger response"? You mean how quickly the sub responds to the sound of your voice/commands?

Ocean_Soul
08-26-2007, 09:51 PM
I remember once when Ocean and I were a D/s online couple I went nearly a month I think it was.

Oh my gosh.. sometimes it was so hard... I would be beyond provoked and then NOTHING... or he would let me see something of my favorites things (him.. ehehe.. and just incase you ladies don't know he is quite fetching)

I remember being in tears because of frustration... but then I learned to get off on NOT getting off... in a mental way. When he said I could I didn't want to.. I wanted to hold off.. push myself.. my limits.. him... Knowing that this was one of the toughest tests I'd go through made it soooo worthwhile...

try to change your mentality on how you view it. It is not easy. I know.

Occasionally I miss those times.... :(

-anya-

:)

Ozme52
08-26-2007, 10:32 PM
What do you mean "hair-trigger response"? You mean how quickly the sub responds to the sound of your voice/commands?

I mean so you cum whenever I ask it when we're together. Whether I have my hands on you or not. Whether I'm toying with your body or not. Whether I draw it out of you physically or mentally.

My body, my hands, my voice, or just my written command. You come fast and hard... so I can do it to you over and over and over again. :cool:

Ozme52
08-26-2007, 10:32 PM
...again and again.

gagged_Louise
08-27-2007, 02:47 AM
mmmm

moptop
08-27-2007, 05:11 AM
You come fast and hard... so I can do it to you over and over and over again. :cool:


...again and again.

I warned you all. Don't listen to him!!

Flaming_Redhead
08-27-2007, 11:24 AM
You need a reason?? :32:

I really have been giving this cum restriction thing a think over (in support of Mishka-lishous and because it just fascinates me). The idea that it's used to heighten an awareness in sensuality does allow me to perceive it in an entirely new way.

I am a highly sensual being. I exist within my sensuality, basically. This aspect of myself is a pervasive force in my thoughts actions and daily goings-on. Sometimes to distraction. Ok, lots of times to distraction. ~looks over at Red~ Oh, be quiet. :blurp_ani Most times, then. Anyway, the thought that I could be taken even further into that part of myself...wow. :wave:

No, I don't really need a reason. :) Your pervasive force sometimes drives me to distraction. :32: Think of it this way. You want DareDevil to act like a Dom and own you, right? All of you? Uh-huh. That's what I thought. *nods knowingly* Well, when he asks you, "Who's cunt is this," what do you say? Uh-huh. Shouldn't he be controlling your sensual self? Hmmmm? Why shouldn't all your cum be only for him? Trust me. You'll be very aware of your sensuality. I have more orgasms during sex now than I ever had in my whole life! The sensitivity is that much increased. Another thing I've noticed is that I wouldn't dream of turning VoodooMan down, not even if we're angry. That's pretty powerful stuff. :p

If DareDevil chooses to punish you with orgasm denial, so much the better! *weg* You'll be begging for release like the horny little slut you are! I mean you'll literally do anything to be able to cum. You'll be reduced to begging, pleading, crying....:am:

*ponders tessa in the throes of subbie-land*:11_2_102:


You know, in all seriousness, I have never understood female cum restriction. Male certainly, but not female. I mean, I frequently have what I can only describe as wet dreams. I tell you something else, they often feel so real they're almost as good as the real thing. So, how can a woman avoid these?

You don't. VoodooMan says they don't count since they are dreams. I've only had one, but it was so good that I woke up and was cumming for real.

gagged_Louise
08-27-2007, 11:35 AM
Couldn't have said it better Red, part of what's so hot about CR is the point that your sensuality is trimmed by His hands (even if mentally, and only some of the time). The thought of being brought close to your turn-on from being bound and cropped or pinched in the tits, whatever, fantasy or reality, and then having to avoid to cum, or beg to be allowed it - sooooo hot. *licks*

Rhabbi
08-27-2007, 12:30 PM
I mean so you cum whenever I ask it when we're together. Whether I have my hands on you or not. Whether I'm toying with your body or not. Whether I draw it out of you physically or mentally.

My body, my hands, my voice, or just my written command. You come fast and hard... so I can do it to you over and over and over again. :cool:

Keep your hands, and commands, away from Mishka. :4:

Rhabbi
08-27-2007, 12:32 PM
The first orgasm after this short restriction was the best orgasm I've ever had in my life. This is going to sound sappy and a poor stab at poetic, but there was a complete difference from the orgasms I've had before...ever. Those are red, hot, powerful energy behind them, animalistic, primal and the noises to go with it. This one was unique. It was blue, cold, from the top of my head down to my vagina, gentle, soft. I felt more amazingly feminine, completely lost in slavery, my voice caught in a whimper, or more like a kitten's soft mew at the end release.

When ever you subs out there think we Doms are only about the down side, remember this little tidbit, What we do is for your own good.

Warbaby1943
08-27-2007, 12:36 PM
When ever you subs out there think we Doms are only about the down side, remember this little tidbit, What we do is for your own good.I have told AG that over and over. Hope she believes it now that she can see it in writing.

Rhabbi
08-27-2007, 12:38 PM
I have told AG that over and over. Hope she believes it now that she can see it in writing.

I doubt it, but good luck WB. Even with all the history that Mishka and I had she thought this was a bad idea. Silly kitten.

Hime
08-28-2007, 09:44 AM
I think I really do have a sadistic side, because Oz's posts (and the reactions) are just cracking me up. :D So evil.

I've only been on CR once, back when D and I were long-distance and we were anticipating a visit. The worst part was when he called me while I was out shopping and started to talk about what he knew I was thinking... *sigh*

I think the best thing to think about to distract you from the craving is all the annoying things that your SO does -- leaving dirty clothes on the floor, watching the same SportsCenter over and over, claiming that "I wasn't staring at that girl, I was just trying to read what her shirt said!", etc. I mean, it's hard to feel too horny for someone thinking about how he say he's going to call when you're away and then falls asleep in front of the TV instead, or wakes you up early in the morning whenever he feels like having a go... pressing his hard cock up against you as he pushes your shoulders down into the bed... his voice almost a growl in your ear...

sorry. :( I'm a bad person, and I don't even have the excuse of being a Dom.

Warbaby1943
08-28-2007, 09:53 AM
I doubt it, but good luck WB. Even with all the history that Mishka and I had she thought this was a bad idea. Silly kitten.Yes they never seem to know what's good for them until we tell them, huh?

Warbaby1943
08-28-2007, 09:57 AM
I think I really do have a sadistic side, because Oz's posts (and the reactions) are just cracking me up. :D So evil.

I've only been on CR once, back when D and I were long-distance and we were anticipating a visit. The worst part was when he called me while I was out shopping and started to talk about what he knew I was thinking... *sigh*

I think the best thing to think about to distract you from the craving is all the annoying things that your SO does -- leaving dirty clothes on the floor, watching the same SportsCenter over and over, claiming that "I wasn't staring at that girl, I was just trying to read what her shirt said!", etc. I mean, it's hard to feel too horny for someone thinking about how he say he's going to call when you're away and then falls asleep in front of the TV instead, or wakes you up early in the morning whenever he feels like having a go... pressing his hard cock up against you as he pushes your shoulders down into the bed... his voice almost a growl in your ear...

sorry. :( I'm a bad person, and I don't even have the excuse of being a Dom.You do all you say and you may be defeating the purpose of a CR. In my opinion it is not to make you forget about wanting to cum. It is to make you think seriously about cumming, making you want it more than ever by tasks you must do during the CR, and then appreciating it once the privilege is restored to you.

Aussiegirl1
08-28-2007, 02:35 PM
You do all you say and you may be defeating the purpose of a CR. In my opinion it is not to make you forget about wanting to cum. It is to make you think seriously about cumming, making you want it more than ever by tasks you must do during the CR, and then appreciating it once the privilege is restored to you.

While on a CR, I always think seriously about wanting to cum, especially when I am in a session!:rolleyes: I guess too it depends on how used to cumming you are. For me, I have the ability to cum MANY times in one session when I am allowed to cum. I have often been to the point of cum overload and still I am asked to cum just a few more times! LOL

Not cumming is a session because I am on a CR is hard. Often it is as hard mentally as physically. Coming into a session, knowing I am on a CR and that I will be teased till I want to cum so badly...........! I guess that is what CR is all about. Can't say I love it, but I can see it's value. It is just one more way to feel submissive and that is the goal after all. :)

Hime
08-28-2007, 06:21 PM
You do all you say and you may be defeating the purpose of a CR. In my opinion it is not to make you forget about wanting to cum. It is to make you think seriously about cumming, making you want it more than ever by tasks you must do during the CR, and then appreciating it once the privilege is restored to you.

You didn't read my whole post, did you? If you get to the end it's a joke. :)

Ozme52
08-28-2007, 08:03 PM
I particularly like the "Oz is Evil" allegations.

Mishka
08-28-2007, 08:29 PM
It should be your signature.

jeanne
08-29-2007, 03:41 AM
It should be your signature.

I second that. :)

Warbaby1943
08-29-2007, 06:42 AM
You didn't read my whole post, did you? If you get to the end it's a joke. :)I did read your entire post but must not have picked up on it being a joke, still don't actually. Sorry.

Rhabbi
08-29-2007, 08:31 AM
or wakes you up early in the morning whenever he feels like having a go... pressing his hard cock up against you as he pushes your shoulders down into the bed... his voice almost a growl in your ear...

sorry. :( I'm a bad person, and I don't even have the excuse of being a Dom.


I did read your entire post but must not have picked up on it being a joke, still don't actually. Sorry.

What about that part WB?

Warbaby1943
08-29-2007, 11:27 AM
What about that part WB?
LOL I thought maybe she just didn't want to fuck since she was on a CR.

wingsofanangel
08-29-2007, 04:21 PM
:)




tease

Ozme52
08-29-2007, 07:48 PM
I particularly like the "Oz is Evil" allegations.


It should be your signature.


I second that. :)


LMAO. Careful what you ask for. :rolleyes:

Mishka
08-29-2007, 11:25 PM
Do we get it?

or are you expecting service first?

Hime
08-30-2007, 08:29 AM
LOL. He definitely ought to come with a warning label. "CAUTION: Exposure may cause nice girls to think very bad thoughts."

Rhabbi
08-30-2007, 09:22 AM
LOL. He definitely ought to come with a warning label. "CAUTION: Exposure may cause nice girls to think very bad thoughts."

There are nice girls here?

*looks around in curiosity*

Warbaby1943
08-30-2007, 09:25 AM
There are nice girls here?

*looks around in curiosity*They only come out after dark but if you look hard enough you can find them.

Rhabbi
08-30-2007, 10:10 AM
They only come out after dark but if you look hard enough you can find them.

After dark where?

Warbaby1943
08-30-2007, 12:38 PM
After dark where?Why here of course. There is nowhere else.

jeanne
08-30-2007, 04:14 PM
Helllloooo... nice girl here, thank you very much! :)

gagged_Louise
08-30-2007, 04:18 PM
*sides with J* me nice too - agree with Mishka on Oz' signature though.

Warbaby1943
08-30-2007, 07:03 PM
Helllloooo... nice girl here, thank you very much! :)See, as I said, after dark, at least here.

jeanne
08-30-2007, 08:01 PM
See, as I said, after dark, at least here.

WB, you're a card! We're all nice girls, inside. Somewhere. Some of us are just more in touch with her. Yep, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Mishka
08-30-2007, 08:05 PM
There are nice girls here?

*looks around in curiosity*



:151:

Your slave. :crawlgirl

Good kitten. Remember?

They only come out after dark but if you look hard enough you can find them.


After dark where?

EST
:blurp_ani

Ozme52
08-30-2007, 09:18 PM
Helllloooo... nice girl here, thank you very much! :)


Are you thinking bad thoughts?

jeanne
08-30-2007, 09:45 PM
Come on over here and maybe I'll tell you. Or, maybe not.

Ozme52
08-30-2007, 11:29 PM
Come on over here and maybe I'll tell you. Or, maybe not.


Methinks you're a bit too pleased with yourself chicklet. :blurp_ani

jeanne
08-31-2007, 05:14 AM
Methinks you're a bit too pleased with yourself chicklet. :blurp_ani

Why, yes. Yes I am. So there. :)

Warbaby1943
08-31-2007, 06:02 AM
WB, you're a card! We're all nice girls, inside. Somewhere. Some of us are just more in touch with her. Yep, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)Well I think it is a great story and you should stick to it.

Rhabbi
08-31-2007, 08:26 AM
I will admit that down inside all the women here there is a good girl, if they will admit that the men can say that down inside them is a good boy.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-01-2007, 10:50 PM
Ahhhhhh, I'm not going to make it. Whimper.

jeanne
09-01-2007, 11:13 PM
Hang in there, naomi.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-01-2007, 11:42 PM
And the verdict for the night is in. He says I've been a good girl . . .and he thinks I can last another day. Noooooooo. Pout!

jeanne
09-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Oh, that's just mean. Mean, mean, mean. I feel for you.

Rhabbi
09-02-2007, 12:23 PM
Ahhhhhh, I'm not going to make it. Whimper.


Hang in there, naomi.


And the verdict for the night is in. He says I've been a good girl . . .and he thinks I can last another day. Noooooooo. Pout!


Oh, that's just mean. Mean, mean, mean. I feel for you.

Actually, it sounds like excellent training to me.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-02-2007, 07:25 PM
I got to come today. La la la, happy song. Three times. I'm absolutely high right now. This was even though I forgot to make the bed. I got spanked for that. Thanks for the support his_j, and the reminder that there are reasons for these things, Rhabbi.

MitchC
09-02-2007, 07:34 PM
That's great news, Naomi. I'm happy for you. I hope your good luck with him continues.

Mitch

jeanne
09-02-2007, 08:02 PM
Actually, it sounds like excellent training to me.

Rhabbi, I knew you would say that! :) And yes, it is, but painful and difficult nonetheless.


I got to come today. La la la, happy song. Three times. I'm absolutely high right now. This was even though I forgot to make the bed. I got spanked for that. Thanks for the support his_j, and the reminder that there are reasons for these things, Rhabbi.

Good for you, naomi!

nk_lion
09-02-2007, 10:54 PM
Wow....a cr thread, I've missed a lot.

Warbaby1943
09-03-2007, 06:04 AM
I got to come today. La la la, happy song. Three times. I'm absolutely high right now. This was even though I forgot to make the bed. I got spanked for that. Thanks for the support his_j, and the reminder that there are reasons for these things, Rhabbi.
Damn!!!!!! Too bad this was just getting interesting.

violet girl{MM}
09-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Oh!!! The Horror!!! The Horror!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*gasps and bites my lip*:(
It's just too terrible to fathom!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*runs out, covering my eyes*

Warbaby1943
09-03-2007, 02:39 PM
Oh!!! The Horror!!! The Horror!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*gasps and bites my lip*:(
It's just too terrible to fathom!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*runs out, covering my eyes*What! No flash.

violet girl{MM}
09-03-2007, 02:43 PM
Oooops! :o
**FLASH** :cool: :cool:
Anything for You, WB...;)
hehhe

*gasp!!!*
THE HORROR!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*shields my eyes and runs back out*

Warbaby1943
09-03-2007, 02:46 PM
Oooops! :o
**FLASH** :cool: :cool:
Anything for You, WB...;)
hehhe

*gasp!!!*
THE HORROR!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*shields my eyes and runs back out*TY very nice as always.

Dorkalicious
09-03-2007, 02:59 PM
This is supposed to be supportive? o.o

nightsilver
09-03-2007, 03:33 PM
I would hate to see the AA support thread >.>

jeanne
09-03-2007, 03:44 PM
The one with a fully stocked bar?

CoughDrop
09-03-2007, 05:24 PM
The one with a fully stocked mini bar?;)

Yeah. Sorry about the missing Toblerone and peanuts. I was peckish.

Dorkalicious
09-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Needs a side of Jolly Ranchers...

Ozme52
09-03-2007, 07:35 PM
I got to come today. La la la, happy song. Three times. I'm absolutely high right now. This was even though I forgot to make the bed. I got spanked for that. Thanks for the support his_j, and the reminder that there are reasons for these things, Rhabbi.

Sounds altogether like too easy a task Naomi. :rolleyes:

So... share with us. What did you learn?

tessa
09-03-2007, 09:43 PM
I would hate to see the AA support thread >.>


The one with a fully stocked bar?

That was genius!

:)

jeanne
09-03-2007, 09:47 PM
tessa - I was starting to wonder if anyone was going to "get" that joke! Thank you for the humor validation!

tessa
09-03-2007, 09:59 PM
tessa - I was starting to wonder if anyone was going to "get" that joke! Thank you for the humor validation!

Thank you for the brilliance in said humor. :)

~huggles~

Naomisagoodgirl
09-03-2007, 10:33 PM
Sounds altogether like too easy a task Naomi. :rolleyes:

So... share with us. What did you learn?

Apparantly nothing because I forgot to make it again today. Doh! 20 smacks. But no, I did learn that I need to leave on time so I don't miss my bus. Oh, and that I can not come for way longer than I thought. Man, why can't I remember to make the bed? I'm totally one of those subs who never disobeys on purpose, becasue I'm way to occupied with disobeying on accident.

Also, tessa, your mini bar joke rocked.

Oops, I forgot the other thing I learned: my pussy is his, not mine. Don't tell Sir.

Ozme52
09-03-2007, 11:14 PM
tessa - I was starting to wonder if anyone was going to "get" that joke! Thank you for the humor validation!



Humor validation rocks!! :super:

Logic1
09-04-2007, 02:38 AM
Man, why can't I remember to make the bed? I'm totally one of those subs who never disobeys on purpose, becasue I'm way to occupied with disobeying on accident.


rofl gotto love the accidental disobeying :)

Ozme52
09-04-2007, 08:54 PM
rofl gotto love the accidental disobeying :)

Not really...

Logic1
09-05-2007, 02:48 AM
Not really...

why not?
makes for the fun kind of punishments imo.

Rhabbi
09-05-2007, 07:17 AM
Not really...


why not?
makes for the fun kind of punishments imo.

I agree with you Logic, plus the deliberate disobedience means that I am doing something wrong.

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 01:45 AM
Accidental disobedience? Would you accept that excuse from a child? From an employee?
More than once; "I forgot" doesn't fly in the vanilla world. Why should you accept that from your subs within the lifestyle.

Continual forgetfulness is not forgetfulness. It's no less willful than deliberate disobedience.

And why do you need an excuse for "the fun kind of punishment." What you do for fun is not a punishment. If a punishment is required... it shouldn't be fun. So you encourage your submissive to play at being disobedient in order to get fun-time. You're talking about playing at B&D and S&M while you roleplay D/s.

And worst of all... when you make your submissives the center of attention, you serve them.

My submissives serve me. NONE of them, past or present, nor likely in the future, fail to understand their role. They obey because the want to please me. They fear getting punished, not because I'm harsh but because they truly do not wish to displease me and gladly offer themselves up for a spanking or a paddle, ten or twentyfold the number, because they know it pleases me to have them across my knee.

Logic1
09-06-2007, 06:48 AM
I am definitely sure that people make mistakes and I do accept that they do. It would be very strange to assume that people dont make mistakes or do something wrong. A mistake made by a kid or coworker or even your sub, should ofcourse be punished but when it is by accident I sure dont feel like a harsh punishment should be the case.

Disobedience is one thing and deliberate disobedience is a whole different matter imo.
I dont do everything right all the time and for me to assume that anybody else never will screw up would be just dumb of me. I dont do that.

Rhabbi
09-06-2007, 09:37 AM
I am definitely sure that people make mistakes and I do accept that they do. It would be very strange to assume that people dont make mistakes or do something wrong. A mistake made by a kid or coworker or even your sub, should ofcourse be punished but when it is by accident I sure dont feel like a harsh punishment should be the case.

Disobedience is one thing and deliberate disobedience is a whole different matter imo.
I dont do everything right all the time and for me to assume that anybody else never will screw up would be just dumb of me. I dont do that.

I agree Logic. Mistakes happen, and some people are more apt to make them then others, especially simply forgetting things. Why would I assume that someone is deliberately courting attention by making mistakes, and then reinforce that behavior by giving them attention?

As I am imperfect, I temper my judgment of my subs with that knowledge. To do anything less would be telling them that it is ok for me to make mistakes, but not for them to do so.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-06-2007, 06:10 PM
Three out of four Doms agree, mistakes happen and can be fun. Fortunately the one that matters is on my side. I'm a forgetful person, but I try my hardest to please Sir. Sir knows this and loves me despite my forgetfulness, if not because of it. I'm very lucky.

The implications that I am spoiled and don't understand my role hurt me a little, even though I know they shouldn't. Sir is a wise and experienced Dom and he wouldn't let me be spoiled or misunderstand my role in his life.

And I would like everyone to note that the bed is made right now. Hot damn is it made. There is not a single thing wrong with that bed. I can't wait until Sir gets home. Of course, I probably forgot something else .. .

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 06:17 PM
(This post was intended to directly follow Logic's and Rhabbi's posts.)

I said "More than once."

More than once is no longer an "accident." Of course mistakes happen. But don't fool yourselves, the second or third time... you punish the child, or fire the employee. You don't say to your child "Wow, let's celebrate by going to the zoo." You don't say to the employee "Here's a raise for being sorry."

Here she is, in part, answering the question "What did you learn?"


Apparantly nothing because I forgot to make it again today.

I don't wish to speak harshly about this particular girl, but you gents seem bent on defending this kind of behavior.

"Forgetting" "again..." That's a problem in my eyes. A problem you seem all to willing to coddle. A problem you think is fun to deal with.


I'm way to occupied with disobeying on accident.

Nor do I see a lot of remorse. Nor a lot of respect...

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 06:22 PM
As I am imperfect, I temper my judgment of my subs with that knowledge. To do anything less would be telling them that it is ok for me to make mistakes, but not for them to do so.


Oh yeah? Well the proofs in the pudding. Go break one of your sub's hard limits. Talk about it and tell her it won't happen again. Then do it again and say you forgot.

Let's see how forgiving she'll be of your seeming disregard and disrespect of her.

Oh... I already know you'll say something on the order of "It's not the same thing." But it really is.

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 06:37 PM
Three out of four Doms agree, mistakes happen and can be fun. Fortunately the one that matters is on my side. I'm a forgetful person, but I try my hardest to please Sir. Sir knows this and loves me despite my forgetfulness, if not because of it. I'm very lucky.

The implications that I am spoiled and don't understand my role hurt me a little, even though I know they shouldn't. Sir is a wise and experienced Dom and he wouldn't let me be spoiled or misunderstand my role in his life.

And I would like everyone to note that the bed is made right now. Hot damn is it made. There is not a single thing wrong with that bed. I can't wait until Sir gets home. Of course, I probably forgot something else .. .

Sorry Naomi, it really isn't my intention to make an example of you. For that I apologize. I have an issue with the approach some of the gentlemen here take.

There are so many dominants here who are new to the lifestyle... and they only get to see two types of doms. The "Down on your Knees bitch" type or the polar opposite who make the D/s relationship revolve around the submissive.

Well, for the most part the former get ridden out of town on a rail... and pretty soon you have a population of new dominants who think it's all about "brats" and play punishment. I'm not knocking it if it works for you and your master... but for many of the new doms looking for guidance, they know no other way...

There is a middle road. And a whole lot of submissives who relish it, crave it... and don't get to participate in it.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-06-2007, 06:37 PM
I think it's pretty bold of you to quesiton my respect for my Master. I respect my Master deeply. So deeply it makes my head spin. And I show that respect everyday, in my own way, in a way that pleases my Master.

That's like saying Sir disrespected me by breaking one of my hard limits, when in fact it wasn't my hard limit, but your sub's hard limit. My Master isn't you.

Naomisagoodgirl
09-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Thank you for your apology Oz, I posted before I read it. I do get my feelings hurt too easily.

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Go up one post naomi... our posts are crossing.


Make that two... which I see you already have as yet another set of postings crossed.

And truly do not have an issue with you... it was unfortunate that my arguement with the other gentlemen revolved around a post you happened to make. :rose:

Naomisagoodgirl
09-06-2007, 06:43 PM
Hee, and again. You saw that I thanked you for your apology, right? Maybe you should start a whole thread on this issue, one that doesn't focus on me as an example of what irks you.

Aw, a flower. It's all good, no hard feelings. I agree it is an interesting issue. The "down on your knees bitch" vs. the "hee hee brat." I get what you're saying.

Rhabbi
09-06-2007, 06:51 PM
For my post, go here.

http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12218

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 07:20 PM
First off, I would never break a subs hard limits, though I occasionally push them. If I did something like what you describe I would be mistreating her and breaking her trust in me.

You miss the point of the question. But you make mine. I agree. That would be mistreatment. Why do you condone subs who mistreat the dom? (Only we call it disrespect.)


And just because some does something more than once does not mean that she is doing it on purpose. I have occasionlly forgotten to do something numerous times, especially when trying to learn something new.

That's a different scenario. Forgetting some component of a larger or complex task doesn't require punishment of any sort. The attempt to learn counts. Tell me how forgetting the entire task is the equivalent?


Anyway, this thread is not about this type of thing, it was started by my sub in an attempt to garner some help for subs going through cum restriction as trining, not as a punishment. you can be sure that when I punish my sub she knows the difference between it and training.

Many threads morph. If you don't want to discuss it... stop asking questions or making statements that beg responses.

tessa
09-06-2007, 07:52 PM
tessa, your mini bar joke rocked.
I wish I could take the credit, but that thanks belongs to jeanne. :)


There is a middle road. And a whole lot of submissives who relish it, crave it... and don't get to participate in it.
So true.


First off, I would never break a subs hard limits, though I occasionally push them.
Is there ever a reason to push hard limits? If they're indeed hard limits, are they to be pushed? I'm not looking to argue or debate. I'm just really curious about this idea.

Also, if forgetfulness is at the root of the "accidental disobedience", perhaps the sub could make a list of what is to be done and refer to it often? Might help. Just a thought.

And as this is a CR thread, bless all y'all's hearts who are going through it and I hope it comes to a successful end soon. :)

Ozme52
09-06-2007, 11:59 PM
There is a middle road. And a whole lot of submissives who relish it, crave it... and don't get to participate in it.


So true.

You know. Don't you girl. :rose:

Rhabbi
09-07-2007, 08:24 AM
You miss the point of the question. But you make mine. I agree. That would be mistreatment. Why do you condone subs who mistreat the dom? (Only we call it disrespect.)

That's a different scenario. Forgetting some component of a larger or complex task doesn't require punishment of any sort. The attempt to learn counts. Tell me how forgetting the entire task is the equivalent?

Many threads morph. If you don't want to discuss it... stop asking questions or making statements that beg responses.

Point to any instance anywhere where I condoned anyone disrespecting anyone and I will back down on this issue.

My point, and I believe Logic's also, was that people are imperfect. Mishka particularly has trouble remembering things so I am sensitive on this issue. I discuss it with her when she forgets something, but do not assume that if she does it more than once that it is because she is being deliberately disobedient. Logic's initial comment was about accidental disobedience, and you chimed in with the opinion that it does not exists, that repeated instances of forgetting things is deliberate.

That is not the case, and it does not just mean simple forgetting part of a larger task. And would not forgetting to make the bed after living a whole life of not doing so fall into that category anyway? That of the myraid individual tasks of keeping house.

As I stated, this thread is meant to discuss cum restriction as training, and although it expanding to include cum restriction as a punishment is not beyond the scope of the thread, this discussion about different philosophies of training and punishment is way beyond the original inten. That does not mean I am not willing to discuss it, but I do think we are going past the intent of Mishka when she started the thread. And, as she is on vacation, I am speaking up for her.

Logic1
09-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Yes Rhabbi we agree completely.
Nothing wrong with a good discussion though.
Middle road is where I find myself I think but like everybody, guideance is never wrong.

Last word in well, I dont feel I have the need to have the last word either so.

I support cumrestriction support *s*

Naomisagoodgirl
09-07-2007, 10:19 AM
If you all still feel like talking about this I started a thread about it. I'm interested to hear more of what everyone has to say.

Mishka
09-09-2007, 09:51 PM
I think I'm starting to like cum restriction. Don't masturbate, change the subject when Master is whispering inspiring things to me so I don't send myself over the edge, etc. It's so sensual and I feel the control He has over me, and that makes it even more sensual and I'm safe.

Now the denial...when in the middle of a sexual act...that my body does not comprehend. "I just got started here!" she screams. Then she does whatever the hell she wants...because I have no idea how to simply not cum. I ended up biting down and biting down...came to a place where I thought that was the end of it...then dried up like an old sponge. Yeah. That was sensual. (note dripping sarcasm) but poor Mishka is not dripping. not even a little.

Warbaby1943
09-10-2007, 06:02 AM
I think I'm starting to like cum restriction. Don't masturbate, change the subject when Master is whispering inspiring things to me so I don't send myself over the edge, etc. It's so sensual and I feel the control He has over me, and that makes it even more sensual and I'm safe.

Now the denial...when in the middle of a sexual act...that my body does not comprehend. "I just got started here!" she screams. Then she does whatever the hell she wants...because I have no idea how to simply not cum. I ended up biting down and biting down...came to a place where I thought that was the end of it...then dried up like an old sponge. Yeah. That was sensual. (note dripping sarcasm) but poor Mishka is not dripping. not even a little.Too bad things worked out that way for you but not everyone is the same, as I'm sure you already know. Some end up dripping even more along with much frustration.

Rhabbi
09-10-2007, 08:25 AM
I think I'm starting to like cum restriction. Don't masturbate, change the subject when Master is whispering inspiring things to me so I don't send myself over the edge, etc. It's so sensual and I feel the control He has over me, and that makes it even more sensual and I'm safe.

Now the denial...when in the middle of a sexual act...that my body does not comprehend. "I just got started here!" she screams. Then she does whatever the hell she wants...because I have no idea how to simply not cum. I ended up biting down and biting down...came to a place where I thought that was the end of it...then dried up like an old sponge. Yeah. That was sensual. (note dripping sarcasm) but poor Mishka is not dripping. not even a little.

We have not fully explored CD yet kitten, perhaps you will actually grow to like it as well. Though I personally doubt that, the possibility does exist.

btw


:welcome:
Welcome
Back

I missed you.
:welcomebo

;rose;

Mishka
09-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Awww...thank You Master. i missed You, too. While i did have a very good time, cum restriction included while away, it's nice to be back. * smooch *

good_girl
09-29-2007, 03:54 PM
I hope for me you are all right in that in the end it is all worth it.
I am on restriction for the first time, and yesterday, day 10, I found myself going out of my mind, it had been a bad day at work and I just wanted to come home and make it a good day. Not only have I been on restriction but the communication between us has been limited (apparently I was a bit too egar, so I am learning patience, and it's taking sooo long) As we are both new to this, I was beginning to question why he was doing this to me so I e-mailed him telling him how badly I was struggling. Although I thought this would annoy him, me already being impatient and all, it was something I needed him to know. I was pleasantly surprised later when he contacted me, and let me talk about it, that was all I needed to feel better.
Although I am happy that we were able to talk about it, and he helped me understand why, I do wish I had found this thread sooner, if I had I might not have gotten in the state I was yesterday.

Rhabbi
09-29-2007, 04:04 PM
I hope for me you are all right in that in the end it is all worth it.
I am on restriction for the first time, and yesterday, day 10, I found myself going out of my mind, it had been a bad day at work and I just wanted to come home and make it a good day. Not only have I been on restriction but the communication between us has been limited (apparently I was a bit too egar, so I am learning patience, and it's taking sooo long) As we are both new to this, I was beginning to question why he was doing this to me so I e-mailed him telling him how badly I was struggling. Although I thought this would annoy him, me already being impatient and all, it was something I needed him to know. I was pleasantly surprised later when he contacted me, and let me talk about it, that was all I needed to feel better.
Although I am happy that we were able to talk about it, and he helped me understand why, I do wish I had found this thread sooner, if I had I might not have gotten in the state I was yesterday.

That is actually quite normal during training. I imposed CR on Mishka to help her deal with another problem she was having, and at first she felt like she was being punished. Your Dom sounds like a smart man to be willing to listen to your gripes when you need him to, congradulations.

fallenstar
09-29-2007, 08:51 PM
i'm on day 16-- a few days back i went insane-- then i talked to Master and he suggested meditation. it really helps both to relax you and give you some control over your body. i'me now doing it several times a day :] dont know if this helps anyone, but it's certainly helping me.

good_girl
09-29-2007, 08:59 PM
I think for me, I can be very stubourn, once I decide to do something I do it, but I have to keep myself focused as to why I am doing it, the conversation last night helped me refocus. When I struggle, I should spend more time here reading, instead of running around in circles losing my mind, there is so much good advice and info in these forums, a big thanks to everyone here.

Mishka
09-29-2007, 10:00 PM
Our pleasure. Over and over and over again. :)

That's what I found to help the most, keeping busy.

CR has lifted for me, but I'm glad I had to go through it. I needed it emotionally.

Now I'm on dessert restriction. Kill me now.

Logic1
09-30-2007, 05:37 AM
Our pleasure. Over and over and over again. :)

That's what I found to help the most, keeping busy.

CR has lifted for me, but I'm glad I had to go through it. I needed it emotionally.

Now I'm on dessert restriction. Kill me now.

not on chocolate restriction then I guess ;)

good_girl
09-30-2007, 04:51 PM
:264: it's over...for now anyway, 12 days, I survived, thanks to you all:ty

Gr1m'sGirl
09-30-2007, 06:50 PM
:264: it's over...for now anyway, 12 days, I survived, thanks to you all:ty

Good job! I don't know if I'd be able to do it. :eek:

Warbaby1943
09-30-2007, 07:39 PM
Good job! I don't know if I'd be able to do it. :eek:You could do it. It's all in the mind. Mind over matter, as they say. I don't mind, so it don't matter.

Mishka
09-30-2007, 09:40 PM
not on chocolate restriction then I guess ;)

um...yes. chocolate, too :maniac:


:264: it's over...for now anyway, 12 days, I survived, thanks to you all:ty

Good for you NE. How do you feel? Besides "survived it"?

good_girl
09-30-2007, 11:06 PM
Mishka,

I feel so many things, pride being one of the big ones, funny, now that I think about it, I would have thought relief would have been the first thing that came to mind, but definitely pride is the first thing I think of. Relief is also there of course LOL. There is also a deep feeling of satisfaction, I was put to this test knowing that it would be difficult for me, and I achieved it, not for me but for him, and that gives me a lot of satisfaction.

Oh so many new feelings I have been through lately, some good some not so good. It seems, like I have been told over and over, that in the end the struggle will be worth it, I am beginning to see that for myself, day by day I am feeling better in my new skin :D

Warbaby1943
10-01-2007, 04:25 AM
Mishka,

I feel so many things, pride being one of the big ones, funny, now that I think about it, I would have thought relief would have been the first thing that came to mind, but definitely pride is the first thing I think of. Relief is also there of course LOL. There is also a deep feeling of satisfaction, I was put to this test knowing that it would be difficult for me, and I achieved it, not for me but for him, and that gives me a lot of satisfaction.

Oh so many new feelings I have been through lately, some good some not so good. It seems, like I have been told over and over, that in the end the struggle will be worth it, I am beginning to see that for myself, day by day I am feeling better in my new skin :DI believe as time progresses you will continue to feel new and great emotions you may never even have though existed. The journey together is what makes it all fantastic. Enjoy.

Aussiegirl1
10-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Well, my latest CR was for 6 days and last night WB really put it to the test too! During the day I had to edge for 6 minutes, three times during the day, with both of my magic wands!!!

By the time we got online last night, I so wanted to cum! The first thing he said was that I could just beg for my CR to continue and save myself the teasing! So did I beg? No way, I was not giving up the chance to cum, even if I knew it might not happen!

So WB teased me, which was both fun and frustrating, but it was not till we had been going for around 90 mins ( 30 of it edging!) I finally gave in and begged for the CR to continue.

You know what he did then??? HE LET ME CUM! Yah! I love not knowing what he is going to do, and he knows it too. I love that he can play with my mind as well as my body. I did feel proud of getting through my CR and would have survived if it had continued.. but oh my.. that cum felt so damn good!

Mishka
10-01-2007, 09:45 PM
I love that he can play with my mind as well as my body.

I like the mental best. But it's wonderful when all put together.

Logic1
10-02-2007, 03:27 AM
Well, my latest CR was for 6 days and last night WB really put it to the test too! During the day I had to edge for 6 minutes, three times during the day, with both of my magic wands!!!

By the time we got online last night, I so wanted to cum! The first thing he said was that I could just beg for my CR to continue and save myself the teasing! So did I beg? No way, I was not giving up the chance to cum, even if I knew it might not happen!

So WB teased me, which was both fun and frustrating, but it was not till we had been going for around 90 mins ( 30 of it edging!) I finally gave in and begged for the CR to continue.

You know what he did then??? HE LET ME CUM! Yah! I love not knowing what he is going to do, and he knows it too. I love that he can play with my mind as well as my body. I did feel proud of getting through my CR and would have survived if it had continued.. but oh my.. that cum felt so damn good!

lol Aussie
that sure sounds like something I would do *weg*

Warbaby1943
10-02-2007, 04:20 AM
Well, my latest CR was for 6 days and last night WB really put it to the test too! During the day I had to edge for 6 minutes, three times during the day, with both of my magic wands!!!

By the time we got online last night, I so wanted to cum! The first thing he said was that I could just beg for my CR to continue and save myself the teasing! So did I beg? No way, I was not giving up the chance to cum, even if I knew it might not happen!

So WB teased me, which was both fun and frustrating, but it was not till we had been going for around 90 mins ( 30 of it edging!) I finally gave in and begged for the CR to continue.

You know what he did then??? HE LET ME CUM! Yah! I love not knowing what he is going to do, and he knows it too. I love that he can play with my mind as well as my body. I did feel proud of getting through my CR and would have survived if it had continued.. but oh my.. that cum felt so damn good!I was very proud of you subbie. As usual, you did great but you do great in everything I ask of you. I am spoiled and now expect excellence out of you each time.

Aussiegirl1
10-02-2007, 04:27 AM
I was very proud of you subbie. As usual, you did great but you do great in everything I ask of you. I am spoiled and now expect excellence out of you each time.

Thank you Master. I think I am spoilt too.