Originally Posted by Ozme52
<---- aaahhh geeee shucks, looks down and shuffles his feet and tries to hide a blush
Ozme: you answered it while I was typing my reply, I am just longwinded and like the sound of my own voice
Brosco
Originally Posted by Ozme52
<---- aaahhh geeee shucks, looks down and shuffles his feet and tries to hide a blush
Ozme: you answered it while I was typing my reply, I am just longwinded and like the sound of my own voice
Brosco
Originally Posted by Brosco
I really like the sound of your voice too, Brosco![]()
fantassy
Originally Posted by fantassy
"Too? Did I say anything about liking his voice?LOL
The Wizard of Ahhhhhhhs
Chief Magistrate - Emerald City
hiii perfectlilslave,
First let me preface this with that fantassy and I discussed your post and so this response is coming from both of us ... I am sure you understand that with her finals just 2 weeks away, she doesn't need too much extra typing so her Dom is being her secretary
First there is your initial statement that I did address in earlier posts:
Don't try!!! Your job is purely to change your mindset from not cumming to allowing it to cum, do not try to make it happen, you have a big enough task with changing your mindset.but when given the command as hard as I try I can not do it right away
Fantasy made 2 points that sorta go hand in hand. First, when I do tease her and keep her on edge, it is not just for a few minutes, but will be at least 1/2 an hour and usually much more of constant arousal that she must fight, so when given the command, she is well and truly desperate to cum.
More importantly though, she explained how the really desperate edge comes in waves. Even though she would be happy to cum just about any time during the teasing, their are waves that are far more insistant than other times. During these 'waves' she needs to fight her hardest not to cum. I detect these waves by listening to her changing in breathing and hearing the 'whimpers' that come at this time. It is not that she isn't on edge at the other times, but its possible to detect when she is fighting the hardest. It is only during these peaks that I command her to cum, and so it takes very little for her to switch her mindset and cum (almost) immediately.
Even if these aren't the issues effecting you, please do not be frustrated. The harder you try to make this happen, the less likely it will happen. The command to 'cum for me' should mean no more than 'stop resisting' and just allow it to happen. This may take some practice, particularly if you have been doing this for a while, but with you relaxing and not helping, plus your Dom being able to pick one of those waves, you will have remarkable success
Brosco
Originally Posted by Brosco
The only things I might add to Brosco's post is that 1/2 is a HUGE underestimate of time of arousal. There is usually at least a 1/2 hour of gentle arousal followed by another 1/2 hour of what I like to call torturous arousal.
Second, and I'm not exactly sure how to describe this, but when he finally gives the command, my immediate mental response is to mentally scream the Hallelluhah Chorus. I guess what I'm saying is I let his words trigger an immediate mental release (basically, my mind starts to orgasm because it knows the body can soon orgasm) which in turn I think helps trigger the physical orgasm.
Hope that makes sense.
fantassy
On the waves of finding it hard to cum, I noticed that when I am so ready and denied my orgasm, this only intensifies my need to orgasm. Is there an explaination for that?
I have always marveled, when denied, how much being told NO nearly sends me over the edge. So, am I crazy or what?
Originally Posted by submissivewife
Don't you think that no matter how much you want to cum, you really are enjoying being on edge, and being told no means you're going to stay on edge that much longer and will have that enjoyment that much longer?
fantassy
I don't know what it is, but when told no I nearly fall over the edge or to make matters worse..."Don't you dare cum." Hell, first time my Daddy told me that I nearly lost my composure and orgasmed anyway.Originally Posted by fantassy
Yes, that is fun, I love it when he does that to me.
I have started two training regimen with my sub. Well, not really sub. I call her my pet, but she is my submissive, so don't take offense all.
The first is orgasm training. She is not allowed to fly completely solo any more. She may play to orgasm with me in chat or on the phone, and she may be with her husband at her own (and his own) discertion, but she is no longer allowed to fall off that edge by herself at all. When I am with her, she tells me when she is close and asks permission to come. I haven't denied her (yet) but I have made her wait, and am working on getting her to come on command. She's doing very well so far. Once or twice we have played "quick O" where I put a stop watch on her from the moment her hand touches herself to the time she goes over. ;-) She's learning very well.
I am also introducing other trainings and games for us to play that serve several purposes. Some give her a chance to please me, some give her skills that will be useful later (knot tying, for example, but in another post). When she is mouthy or a little "too" funny, I punish her by making her hold a pencil or pen in her mouth like a bit. At first she had a huge gag factor, but she is learning to control it, and after our last session, she even thanked me for the opportunity to grow and learn.Aw man, is she good to have.
Point being, O-training is part of our relationship. Not sure where it will go but I'm willing to see how far it will take us.
LOL Brosco.
The Wizard of Ahhhhhhhs
Chief Magistrate - Emerald City
I agree with you entirely. Everyone is different, so how much can be achieved or how long it takes is of little consequence to me. Have fun along the way and thats all that matters. Putting pressure to achieve a goal like o-on-command in a certain time would probably be the best way of assuring it wouldn't happen. I think I also stated elsewhere, its not a training that can be achieved with negative re-inforcement It is definitely one that relies on lots of positive reinforcement.Point being, O-training is part of our relationship. Not sure where it will go but I'm willing to see how far it will take us.
Brosco
OK, I'm gonna be in trouble for this post, I 'promised' (my fingers were crossed behind my back at the timefantassy that I wouldn't tell ya all about this. OK... I'll tell ya, then tell ya why she wants it a secret
10 minutes of O's tonite!!!!! non-stop just cumming and cumming and cumming. 10 minutes!!!!! wow.... why shouldn't I gloat?
Now, why should she want to keep this quiet? (lol... she wasn't very quiet for those 10 mins, let me tell ya. I think maybe that fantassy might be becoming just a lil possessive... lol.. not about me so much... but the O's she is getting, and if I post here about 10 minute non-stop O's there is prolly a couple of subbies around that would like part of the action
Well fantassy has my full and undivided attention. In the words of Rocky Horror - "I just love success"And there is a reason that we have this success - it is not my prowess - it is simply that fantassy and I obviously have a connection that allows this to happen even when we have limited time with her busy study and work schedule.
fantassy's summer break is just a few weeks away, and with all that extra time my mind boggles with what we might achieve - but really I don't care if we achieve more or not. It is the connection that is achieving all - not fantassy, not me - but the 2 of us just seem to jell to allow it to happen - and I guess that is the key to achieving anything in a relationship.
Brosco
somebody's going to take that stopwatch away from you, Brosco! Surely I can find somebody in Oz to do the job for me. Gloating isn't an attractive look.Originally Posted by Brosco
By the way, I notice you didn't tell these fine ladies about the hours of torture you put me through the night before (what was it about 3 or 4 ?).
fantassy
LOL ... maybe I should get the stopwatch out for the teasing sessions - just to give a balanced report of courseOriginally Posted by fantassy
BTW, as I have mentioned before, the Jack Rabbit vibe is definitely the best toy around for teasing and I recommend it to anyone. I would also recommend it for any females who have difficulty in cumming, I know a few girls that it has really helped.
One bit of warning though, for those that use Jack for teasing. Jack is truly designed to make someone cum fairly quickly and so with a long teasing session and the resulting clamping of the muscles on the vibe, the batteries can overheat and reduce its effectiveness. I suggest that you have 2 Jacks or at least a supply of fresh batteries very handy.
And given that fantassy needs lots of fresh batteries and is constantly horny, we were thinking of changing her nick to EverreadyGal - do you think that would suit her?
Brosco
If we don't change the name, I'm at least going to buy stock in the company . . lolOriginally Posted by Brosco
fantassy aka Everready Gal
WOW, this is great. I love the updates, and Fantassy you are lucky. Continue to enjoy...we love the reports (well I most definitely do anyway).
lol, so do I...this thread is what had me glued to the forums in the first place! And, yeah, I admit I'm just a tiny bit jealous...WOW, this is great. I love the updates, and Fantassy you are lucky. Continue to enjoy...we love the reports (well I most definitely do anyway).
Looking forward to the summer break update...
Silke
OH my...this just get more and more interesting. (Eyes glued to this thread)
I'll bet she uses a pink jackrabbit vibrator..... lucky rabbit.
The Wizard of Ahhhhhhhs
Chief Magistrate - Emerald City
The man behind the green curtain knows all . . . lol. I do indeed have a pink jackrabbit, but he's a backup. My original and fav was called a "lickin lizard." Unfortunately, the poor thing has been so overworked since Brosco got a hold of me, its overheating.Originally Posted by Ozme52
fantassy aka everready gal
I love this thread its such a turn on!Originally Posted by fantassy
On the subject of overheating, my first Dom (well really a friend that was topping me) insisted I go out and buy my first vibe. It burnt out in 3 weeks!! Buying it was ambarrassing enough ..going back and explaining umm...I KILLED the rabbit was so ambarrassing I actually went into laugh mode (so did the sexshop sales assistant who was lovely) Imagine my relief when I was told that it wasnt "overuse" but me using alkaline batteries that had killed it dead. Fantassy if its overheating check what batteries it can take.
Anyway back to the subject of this thread... O control. Keep going guys Im reading with alot of interest.
Better go and make sure mine have the proper batteries...don't want mine to burnout either.....Originally Posted by seababy
![]()
Thanks for the positive feedback, Seababy, and for the advice. I'll give a different type of battery a try.Originally Posted by seababy
Didn't there used to be a saying way back when which meant you were pregnant when "the rabbit died"? Or am I imagining things?
Fantassy
Yep. They used to inject female urine into a doe rabbit's bloodstream to see if it affected the ovaries. If "pregnancy hormones" were present, the rabbit's ovaries were visibly changed.Originally Posted by fantassy
Now, even though "the rabbit died" meant the woman was pregnant, in fact, all of the rabbits died, whether the woman was pregnant or not because the inspection of the ovaries was visual.
The Wizard of Ahhhhhhhs
Chief Magistrate - Emerald City
Originally Posted by fantassy
![]()
The Wizard of Ahhhhhhhs
Chief Magistrate - Emerald City
It is wonderful to see more people chiming into this thread. Yes, I understand it is not everyone's kink, but for those that do, Everreadygal (fantassy) and I get a lot of pleasure from knowing we have an audience that appreciates our posts. ooooohhh, we will continue to enjoy our fun regardless, but... uuummmm ... letting out secrets now, EverreadyGal also gets a bit of a kick from this 'semi-public exposure'.
Lets face it, she allows me to contol her O's (and even her vibe settings) from 12,000 miles away - not really something you can easily explain to another.
So to the others out there that are enjoying this thread, please add a comment, a question, a suggestion (hey, we don't know it all) - or just your own thoughts. Seriously, we both enjoy the feedbackEvery post encourages us to post more
Brosco
Lucky Gal!
Master Evan and I began some training in this area... He is taking a break now to study for a major exam, but it appears the training is taking hold. When I am with my vanilla husband and can't get into it, I imagine asking Master for release, being told not yet, and me begging for it. When I imagine him saying yes, over I go!
WOW! the thought of this alone is almost enough to send me over the edge!Eventually, when I desire, there will be non-stop O's without the slightest of arousal.
While my Master and i have not had the success you have had so far, we are indeed having a wonderful time trying. He always commands me to cum for Him when He knows i am getting close and this is always that extra little push i need to start an orgasm.
We have not worked on anything further than that as of yet but i do have to say that i think it would be oh-so-fun to be able to achieve this and have Him order me to orgasm at various different times...grocery store line up, in the movie theatre, while at my desk at work...mmmmm...i think i will have to speak with Him about this again!!
Brosco and Everr..err, i mean fantassy..please keep up the posts - i am enjoying them tremendously and learning a lot as well!
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)