"Pet" girl kicked off bus for wearing leash

[newby]

i hope i did this right

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080123/...nzcII4YB0uQE4F

[bip0lar]

yeh, i read that, it's in my area (although not my city.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...#StartComments
This is where I first read it from and couldn't help but read the comments. Some I laughed at, some I wholeheartedly second (guess which).
But hey "Mr Graves alleged: "He shoved me off the bus. He called us freaks and he called Tasha a dog." I have to admit that in this context if i were the sub i'd like being called a dog. but then again i'm strange, lol.

[Euryleia]

wow, good for them for complaining about their treatment. Live and let live.

[Warbaby1943]

Strange to those who may not be familiar with this lifestyle

[Sir_Russell]

The only problem I see with this is that it allows some very petty official, bus driver to takes steps to refuse service to a life styler. I personally think they got the attention that they wanted and not really sure that nillas find ways to deal with this kind of displays. But then this is similar to the gays being forced to hide themselves to protect the straights.

[Logic1]

Well what can I say. Power to them for living the lifestyle to its fullest. Shame on the busdriver even though I can understand that some people might be freaked out but still that doesnt allow him to treat her like that.

[Saucie]

To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised anyone really cared. The depth of the play might squick some people, but if she wasn't pissing on a streetlight, I don't think most people would take time out from their own lives to actually be offended by something so innocuous.

[violetgem]

wow, I didn't hear about this until I read this post. Thanks for posting it, very interesting.

[intrinsic.want]

I am all for alternative life, and the individual freedom of anyone to choose what he/she likes and lead the life one choses to live if it hurts no one and it makes that one happy.
I myself wish to know myself and lead my own life my way. but i just cannot understand this girl.I am also nineteen.
what could have been done to her or happened with her in these nineteen years that she feels that she has to belong to and be totally dependent on her "owner". how can one create this type of personality oddity? Can anyone explain this to me or have a theory?

'Pet' girl kicked off bus for wearing leash
(Agencies)
Updated: 2008-01-24 10:38


LONDON -- A British bus company has apologized to a girl who is led around on a leash by her boyfriend and describes herself as a human pet after one of its drivers threw her off a bus.

Tasha Maltby, 19, told British newspapers she was the "pet" of her 25-year-old fiance Dani Graves.

Pictures showed her dressed in black Gothic-style clothing with silver buckles on a silver chain -- which the driver of a bus from the firm Arriva took exception to.

She told the Daily Mail newspaper Wednesday she was thrown off and told: "We don't let freaks and dogs like you on."

Arriva would not comment on specifics but said it apologized if the couple felt they had been discriminated against. It added, however, that the driver was worried about safety and the company told Maltby to take the leash off in the future.

"We have spoken to the driver who has talked about health and safety," a spokesman said. "Should she be attached to a chain and something happens on the bus, that could be dangerous. All we are saying is that she is very welcome to use the buses but not when she is on her lead."

Maltby -- who lives on state benefits and got engaged in November -- said her choice of lifestyle might seem unusual but was harmless.

"I am a pet," she told the Daily Mail. "I generally act animal-like and I lead a really easy life. I don't cook or clean and I don't go anywhere without Dani. It might seem strange but it makes us both happy. It's my culture and my choice. It isn't hurting anyone."


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...nt_6418226.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddly...36625320080123

[Cool Luke's Hand]

what could have been done to her or happened with her in these nineteen years that she feels that she has to belong to and be totally dependent on her "owner". how can one create this type of personality oddity? Can anyone explain this to me or have a theory?

I'm going to go with "that's her way of being submissive". It's not a personality oddity any more than, say, not liking potatoes is.

[Isabella King]

I reckon the key is in her age. She's a teenager (and a Goth) and just wants to shock people. Looks like she achieved her aim

[gloombunny]

I reckon the key is in her age. She's a teenager (and a Goth) and just wants to shock people. Looks like she achieved her aim

Or, y'know, maybe she just likes the way she looks dressed like that and enjoys being submissive. But no, you're right, it must be some juvenile ulterior motive to it all. It's not like people ever do anything for their own reasons, after all.

[icey]

or maybe it was a task she had to do perhaps her owner wanted the reactions?

but people have to accept wrongly or rightly that society has often rigid opinions on whats right and wrong and anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that in such situations you're likely to get an adverse reaction.

a PO stopped Icehawk and me once because i was being awkward *g* and wouldnt hold his hand so he grabbed me by my wrist shackles and led me down the street with me stomping my feet!
the PO asked what was going on ,was i ok ,what was that round my neck (collar) etc then said he thought Icehawk was kidnapping me lol it turned out ok and the PO laughed it off ...he seemed a bit embarrased....but it could have turned out very differently.

[Warbaby1943]

It seems strange to many I suppose but it sure is not shocking in this arena.

[gemmy]

i wouldn't necessarily discount her age, some young gurls are far more advanced than anyone gives them credit for

'pet' submissives are not uncommon, nor totally out there any more than anyone on these boards who likes their bottom whipped or to whip said bottom

she may grow out of it, or she may very well just be happy, simply - who is anyone to judge this as unusual and especially anyone from these boards?

i think it was wrong to kick her off the bus and it had nothing to do with safety and everything to do with the bus driver not liking and judging what he saw as not 'socially normal' - we all fight against that everyday to be us and it's sad - i'm highly impressed that she stood her ground and defended herself, whether it was for her 'goth shocking' or just her belief

[alpha_Straye]

how inspirational *smile*. im suprised that at only 19 the girl has such character and strength of will...

[_ID_]

It reminds me of the "what is your fetish" thread I had started way back when.

http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5871

Each person has their own kink. If she likes being lead around on a leash, so be it. I am not going to question why she does it, so long as it makes her happy.

[gemmy]

interesting thought icey

i think if it was a task, she passed with flying colours *winks*

*giggles at your story* especially the stomping feet part hehe

[crazy_grrluk]

This story was bought up a lil while ago and the bus company did appologise to the couple. the driver of that bus was more concerned about her leash causing problems if there were to have been an accident more than anything.
The story did hit our national papers and a lot of people actually sided with the couple in question.

One of our papers actually spent the day with the couple seeing how they lived.. asking friends and neighbours how they felt about the couples activities and they all stated that it was their business and not theirs and that they had got so used to seeing them they way they are that it was just a part of life seeing them about town.

[gemmy]

This story was bought up a lil while ago and the bus company did appologise to the couple. the driver of that bus was more concerned about her leash causing problems if there were to have been an accident more than anything.
The story did hit our national papers and a lot of people actually sided with the couple in question.

One of our papers actually spent the day with the couple seeing how they lived.. asking friends and neighbours how they felt about the couples activities and they all stated that it was their business and not theirs and that they had got so used to seeing them they way they are that it was just a part of life seeing them about town.

in one article i read on this cg, Miss Maltby stated that the bus driver said "We don't allow freaks or dogs on this bus"

i don't see the safety concern in his statement if that is true unfortunately
and sure the company apologized, but likely only because they HAD to to avoid a law suit - it doesn't diminish the fact that people would be so hurtful to others that they have no clue about

some things will never change and sadly, this sort of discrimination is one of them

[icey]

ive only heard the 'freaks and dogs' version myself...anyway dogs are allowed on buses in the uk as long as their fare is paid and they stay on the leash so i
i dont believe the safety excuse for one minute,its a bit illogical really.

the only thing causing safety issues on buses are the bloody drivers...have you ever been on a UK bus?? sheeesh

[Isabella King]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they have recruitment centres in prisons

[Rational Head]

The picture of the couple when they were on the walk (after they were thrown out of the bus)

I find them lovely.
Look at the affection and trust in Miss Maltby's eyes for her fiance.

[sidhewolf]

I am all for alternative life, and the individual freedom of anyone to choose what he/she likes and lead the life one choses to live if it hurts no one and it makes that one happy.
I myself wish to know myself and lead my own life my way. but i just cannot understand this girl.I am also nineteen.
what could have been done to her or happened with her in these nineteen years that she feels that she has to belong to and be totally dependent on her "owner". how can one create this type of personality oddity? Can anyone explain this to me or have a theory?

'Pet' girl kicked off bus for wearing leash
(Agencies)
Updated: 2008-01-24 10:38


LONDON -- A British bus company has apologized to a girl who is led around on a leash by her boyfriend and describes herself as a human pet after one of its drivers threw her off a bus.

Tasha Maltby, 19, told British newspapers she was the "pet" of her 25-year-old fiance Dani Graves.

Pictures showed her dressed in black Gothic-style clothing with silver buckles on a silver chain -- which the driver of a bus from the firm Arriva took exception to.

She told the Daily Mail newspaper Wednesday she was thrown off and told: "We don't let freaks and dogs like you on."

Arriva would not comment on specifics but said it apologized if the couple felt they had been discriminated against. It added, however, that the driver was worried about safety and the company told Maltby to take the leash off in the future.

"We have spoken to the driver who has talked about health and safety," a spokesman said. "Should she be attached to a chain and something happens on the bus, that could be dangerous. All we are saying is that she is very welcome to use the buses but not when she is on her lead."

Maltby -- who lives on state benefits and got engaged in November -- said her choice of lifestyle might seem unusual but was harmless.

"I am a pet," she told the Daily Mail. "I generally act animal-like and I lead a really easy life. I don't cook or clean and I don't go anywhere without Dani. It might seem strange but it makes us both happy. It's my culture and my choice. It isn't hurting anyone."


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...nt_6418226.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddly...36625320080123

Hello All~

I think it's Great really, that a girl/young Woman Knows Who She Is and what she wants, and is Happy with herself and her Choices for her Life. By all I have read on this thread, the Couple is Happy, and the girl/young Woman under no non-Consensual duress. Even the neighbors of this young Couple find no problem, nor have any complaints re; Safety issues etc. So be it! May this Couple continue to be Blessed with their Choices, that so obviously make Them Happy.

I find not one "oddity" or odd thing to explain personally, other then > Why would someone else Not involved in this Couple's Relationship find Them odd because They are Happy? Hmmmmm .....

Just my thoughts and opinion of course.

Respectfully~SidheWolf

[alpha_Straye]

I am all for alternative life, and the individual freedom of anyone to choose what he/she likes and lead the life one choses to live if it hurts no one and it makes that one happy.
I myself wish to know myself and lead my own life my way. but i just cannot understand this girl.I am also nineteen.
what could have been done to her or happened with her in these nineteen years that she feels that she has to belong to and be totally dependent on her "owner". how can one create this type of personality oddity? Can anyone explain this to me or have a theory?

'Pet' girl kicked off bus for wearing leash
(Agencies)
Updated: 2008-01-24 10:38


LONDON -- A British bus company has apologized to a girl who is led around on a leash by her boyfriend and describes herself as a human pet after one of its drivers threw her off a bus.

Tasha Maltby, 19, told British newspapers she was the "pet" of her 25-year-old fiance Dani Graves.

Pictures showed her dressed in black Gothic-style clothing with silver buckles on a silver chain -- which the driver of a bus from the firm Arriva took exception to.

She told the Daily Mail newspaper Wednesday she was thrown off and told: "We don't let freaks and dogs like you on."

Arriva would not comment on specifics but said it apologized if the couple felt they had been discriminated against. It added, however, that the driver was worried about safety and the company told Maltby to take the leash off in the future.

"We have spoken to the driver who has talked about health and safety," a spokesman said. "Should she be attached to a chain and something happens on the bus, that could be dangerous. All we are saying is that she is very welcome to use the buses but not when she is on her lead."

Maltby -- who lives on state benefits and got engaged in November -- said her choice of lifestyle might seem unusual but was harmless.

"I am a pet," she told the Daily Mail. "I generally act animal-like and I lead a really easy life. I don't cook or clean and I don't go anywhere without Dani. It might seem strange but it makes us both happy. It's my culture and my choice. It isn't hurting anyone."


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...nt_6418226.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddly...36625320080123

Thankyou for the quote SidheWolf. That's the post i answered and yet somehow my response is in here... *confused* .. Well, at least it's not just me *smile*

[gagged_Louise]

Of course she was after the shock factor - that's what ounts if you're 19. Maybe the driver didn't handle it well, but I think you have to weigh in that he didn't want to risk some of the other passengers - on board alreadyor who might join later - to gt angry or derisive, run riot and shout, or even get threatening, when they spotted this leashed girl. I'm not saying he cared much about her, but it's his job to avoid getting people fighting in the bus.

Sometimes it's curious how people will be saying, or aiming for "I'm out to make an action statement here that's gonna blow people's minds, toss their thinking upside down, I'll be shooting totally straight" and then they crack up and feel insulted when they do get a reaction and it's not 100% respectful, don't get an attitide of, like, "thanks for exposing our prejudices". You don't ride the bus in order to be Pink or Ziggy Stardust.

[gloombunny]

Of course she was after the shock factor - that's what ounts if you're 19.

For some 19-year-olds. Not all.

[gagged_Louise]

For some 19-year-olds. Not all.

Of course, but I felt that was obvious. I recall a girl classmate in high school who said during a talk in class that polite behaviour, in her opinion, would mean that if there was a dinner party at home and some of the guests were folks from her parents' work and the like, whom you didn't meet all the time, and people were discussing something - let's say, a news topis, music, or politics - over the good food, she would not speak there to senior guests or dare to even mildly interrupt them unless she'd been spoken to first. And she wasn't sexually submissive either, far as I know, or from an ethnic background, just very much "fine girl" (and one of the top-grades students in my class). I think there were quite a few silently lifted eyebrows there at her excess of good girl manners, but no one challenged her view of this.

There's no telling from the article how much the leashed "pet girl" had thought through what she was saying or if she's just "talking the talk", picking a posture. So I'll suspend judgment on whether the bus driver was unduly making her an outcast.

[gemmy]

Of course, but I felt that was obvious. I recall a girl classmate in high school who said during a talk in class that polite behaviour, in her opinion, would mean that if there was a dinner party at home and some of the guests were folks from her parents' work and the like, whom you didn't meet all the time, and people were discussing something - let's say, a news topis, music, or politics - over the good food, she would not speak there to senior guests or dare to even mildly interrupt them unless she'd been spoken to first. And she wasn't sexually submissive either, far as I know, or from an ethnic background, just very much "fine girl" (and one of the top-grades students in my class). I think there were quite a few silently lifted eyebrows there at her excess of good girl manners, but no one challenged her view of this.

There's no telling from the article how much the leashed "pet girl" had thought through what she was saying or if she's just "talking the talk", picking a posture. So I'll suspend judgment on whether the bus driver was unduly making her an outcast.

the article clearly stated they rode the bus regularly so this wasn't just a 'one-off' shock tactic

that bus driver wasn't thinking of his other passengers, hardly - it's barely even shocking for crying out loud - why? cause they look goth, give me a break, that's hardly new and there are more shocking figures than those two walking the streets today - they look entirely normal aside from the chain linking them - it's clear closed mindedness and nothing more

that bus driver has no right to judge and discriminate who can ride the bus aside from maybe an overly drunk person and i've seen plenty of them on the bus - it's just his low self-esteem that couldn't handle it so he thought he would wield his big 'bus driver powers' and kick them off