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    Why BDSM porn featuring larger women?

    Vanilla porn featuring fat women is widely available, but hardly any, if any BDSM porn seems to be. Any comments or ideas about why this is?

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    Maybe perhaps with BDSM the women (if in the submissive role) seem to have the need of better flexibility so that they can be tied in the many odd and seemingly un-humanlike poses. A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.

    I am not certain, but that is just my thoughts.
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    hmm..narrowing the niche even more...bbw and bdsm!

    you are unfortunately part of the minority that share both an interest in bdsm and bbw and because I would imagine people like you are few and far between, it makes sense that the supply of this type of porn meets the demand, which is small.

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    Red face

    Quote Originally Posted by Finding_Fantasy
    A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.
    That's might as well be a producer issue: Larger women would required really strong premises, which means a higher cost.
    Assume a simple sling.
    For a light weight, most won't bother about the fixations.
    With a heavier load, quality is mandatory; As quality usually doesn't come cheap...

    Back to the original remark: It might just be a geographical issue.
    Most US movie features thin and healthy people, even when that country has probably the highest rate of fat people. US bdsm movies are just like other US movie.
    From personal experience, German bdsm movies can have larger women (along with real sex act, which US ones do not by law, I believe).
    Larger women in these movies could be top or bottom.
    Weight does not mean amorphous: you need to move the cane right, even if you're a large top!

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    Food for thought

    Quote Originally Posted by le forgeron
    From personal experience, German bdsm movies can have larger women (along with real sex act, which US ones do not by law, I believe).
    HHHmmm I may have to check out the German market! I haven't found a decent bdsm porn yet. They all have bondage and torture with no real sex, or visa versa.

    I just got the DVD to Story of O. It started out like it was going to be really hot...than fizzled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJerseyGuy
    HHHmmm I may have to check out the German market! I haven't found a decent bdsm porn yet. They all have bondage and torture with no real sex, or visa versa.
    All US ones like that... Latex/high heel/big breast with sex are easy to find. Real bondage with sex... none from the US. More hope from Europ.
    I might compute a list of the movies I have seen with bondage & sex, if you're interested for some title samples.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrJerseyGuy
    I just got the DVD to Story of O. It started out like it was going to be really hot...than fizzled out.
    I read the book some years ago.
    Psychologically interesting, but I believe any movie of it would be disappointing.
    (and the book is very historicaly-marked, (not easily adaptable to modern era... I know, it's only 30/40 years ago!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by le forgeron
    All US ones like that... Real bondage with sex... none from the US. More hope from Europe.
    The reason for this is that it is illegal to produce a commercial (one in which you make money with) that combines BDSM with any form of penetration sex. So any movies that have anything resembling bondage, whippings, etc... can not also show any sex that includes penetration of cocks, dildos, strap-ons etc. This is a wonderful legacy of the Reagan administration and that much loved AG Ed Mease. The sex you do see in US made films is moslty lesbian type but no dildo or strap-on penetrations. But vibrators that don't penetrate are ok.
    Even some older (pre-80's ) mainstrem porn movies (800 Fantasy Lane comes to mind) have had the BDSM sex edited out in newer DVD versions.
    So your only hope of sex with your BDSM is to buy an American made movie sold in Europe or get amatuer ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finding_Fantasy
    Maybe perhaps with BDSM the women (if in the submissive role) seem to have the need of better flexibility so that they can be tied in the many odd and seemingly un-humanlike poses. A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.

    I am not certain, but that is just my thoughts.
    hmm i don't think i lack the mobility or flexibility...
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    Me neither!
    Witch....or..switch?????
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    re-your name

    Pickety Witch. nice band in the late 60's. i saw them at the Cavendish Club in Blackburn many years ago. Thanks for bringing back the memory, Jill Bird.

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    your name

    Pickety Witch. nice band in the late 60's. i saw them at the Cavendish Club in Blackburn many years ago. Thanks for bringing back the memory, Jill Bird.

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    You are so right about US BDSM movies and web sites. From a producers point of view it may be "legal" to show BDSM and penetration, in some places. But in doing so they will eventually attract the attention of BIG Brother. Big Brother means paying big $$$ for the lawyers and a suspension of operations. This is not in their best interests. Fortunately for our European friends they have not had the conservative christians dictating the "legal" moral values. Also it is cheaper to produce a movie without sex or penetration simply because you have to pay the actors more for this type of performance. Then there the legalities of STD's etc to be considered. So along as there is a demand for sexless BDSM and people are willing to pay for it they will deliver.

    As for the original discussion of physical size I have to agree with TG. There are many women in the lifestyle who do not fit into the skinny category. I had the good fortune to be involved with a bondage website at its inception. Of the two women involved one was small and the other large. While Karena outweighed her partner Vesta 2 to 1 she lacked neither the flexibility or the spirit of her smaller sister. While Karena has moved behind the camera the site to this day still features some larger women.

    I have dusted off a few of the dungeons archives for example.
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    There was a series by Jjolo with an obviously overweight main character into extreme pain. I can't help you further as I edited the lard out on my copy... reader's privilege.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsand
    Vanilla porn featuring fat women is widely available, but hardly any, if any BDSM porn seems to be. Any comments or ideas about why this is?

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    Minority?

    While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide
    While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

    "I like 'em big, and round..." - Sir Mixalot
    While I don't want to dredge up the horid discussion on bdsm girls and weight issues....all I was saying was that the demand for pictures of larger women in bdsm scenes is much smaller than the demand for pictures of more slimmer and toned girls in bdsm scenes. My proof is the favorite picture thread.

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    fetish101 said:
    "all I was saying was that the demand for pictures of larger women in bdsm scenes is much smaller than the demand for pictures of more slimmer and toned girls in bdsm scenes. My proof is the favorite picture thread"

    The slim women that predominate the favorite picture thread probably has a lot to do with what is available on the web. The models on the web are chosen for their "ideal" look rather than their interest in BDSM. I find the real women and men in the personal photography thread who are not so perfect to be much more erotic.

    As far as the flexibility is concerned, I'm relatively small, but I'll be damned if I can get in some of those positions I see in those pictures. Even when I was 20, I don't think I could have bent that way without tearing a few ligaments. I don't think size is the only factor here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide
    While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

    "I like 'em big, and round..." - Sir Mixalot
    Your dead right here Tourguide,
    My Canadian sub is a larger girl, but by no means a heffer.
    The show pony models are all thin & petite, but the real life sub females are all errrrr packing a little emergency skin.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanne
    I can't help you further as I edited the lard out on my copy... reader's privilege.
    jeanne, I haven't laughed that hard for quite a long time. Thank you very much.

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    I hadn't noticed but I have to giggle a bit after reading a post recently about how there are too many "ugly fat girls" in BDSM and not enough pretty skinny girls. ROFL Okay, I know, it doesn't help but I just think you and the other guy need to share notes, maybe he can help you find something. I know, I am no help at all, I am sorry.

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    Originally Posted by Inishmore:
    It's funny, I never thought about it. I'm a bbw, and I fantasize about BDSM. However, I have no interest in having bbw's in my porn. I think it would turn me off. I need to think about that for a minute

    i have to admit that it's the same case with me, although i really do feel the need for somebody to like me the way i am in a bdsm context. unfortunately i haven't been lucky so far. :/

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    I would imagine the main reason is that most bdsm porn you see uses professional models and since bbw models have less work opportunities there simply aren't as many of them around. In amateur porn you may find more, but the bbw is more likely perhaps to be self conscious about her figure and less willing to bare all for the camera.

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