a bizarre question for the doctors in the community

[naomi]

my owner has requested that i make this inquiry. he would like to know if it would be possible for the sphincter muscles in the anus to be severed so that a slave would no longer have any control over her bowels. personally, the thought is quite frightening to me. can one heal up "normally" with no complications after such a procedure? what would the results be like? thank you for any insights regarding this perverted query.

respectfully,
n.

[redEva]

naomi,

while i am NOT the doctor - to the best of my knowledge - once you cause such a damage to the sphincters - once they are ruptured - that is irreparable damage - no going back.

many of us are interested in anal play – but it is based on stretching while retaining the elasticity of sphincters and thus preventing permanent damage. i hope we will get some input from members in medical profession, because this is interesting question.

[BDSM_Tourguide]

DON'T DO IT!

Tell your owner that if he cared about you, he would not ask that of you. It's way too risky and way too dangerous just to do on someone's whim.

[Pandora's Box]

We have two sets of muscles to control the exit of waste from the anus. One is smooth muscle tissue, and not under conscious control. It opens as a reflex when it feels pressure. Just as all sphincters do in the digestive track.

The second is skeletal muscle. It is under conscious control and is what we learn to control when we get potty trained as kids.

With that said, I have several concerns regarding a procedure such as this.

One, you probably won't be able to find a reputable and safe doctor willing to do it. That type of "elective" surgery is not only dangerous but doesn't even serve any cosmetic value. Doctors aren't too quick to completely mess up the function of a vital body part without a damn good reason.

Two, while muscle tissue does have the ability to heal, how well it does it depends on how the muscle is cut. With or across the grain of the muscle tissue. If you go with the grain, then the muscle has a much greater chance of healing without scar tissue and without deteriorated function. If you cut across the grain, you are severing the muscle cells and it is much harder to heal.

Third, you are dealing with an area ripe with bacteria. Any bacteria near a wound is not a good idea. Let alone having a wound in an area that manufactures bacteria as part of its natural function.

Fourth, while this is not a biological concern per se, it is a valid thought. Fantasies are great. And many fantasies should remain just that ~ fantasies. This sounds like one that should remain in that realm.

[Mobius]

I concur with the others. Fantasy is one thing. Sure it would be an ideal to be so under some ones control that you even have your bodily functions under your masters control.

But the reality would be walking around with a bag attached to your hip that your wast would be collected into. I have had friends who have had colostomy were the colon is removed and you just empty into a bag. Sounds like fun? No. While I am not a wheel chair driver I work with other's and have contact with these unfortunate individual's that do not have any control of there bodies. No arms no leg's they can not control there wast either. No one would want this and for many of them they have a do not resuscitate order in place.

You want nothing to do with this. Sure you are your owners property but your first duty is to protect your self for your owners pleasure. Some times you have to protect your self from your owners own stupidity.

Compromise offer to wear a but plug for an extended time. But do not ever do some thing as undo able as this.

[redEva]

Still no doctors, but consensus seems to be – as far as general public knows – DON’T DO IT! It is irreparable damage. One of the things I know for sure, is that during the labour, if doctor sees that mom will not be able to stretch enough and that there is possibility that she would tear, doctor makes the incision, so to ensure that the tear will not go in the direction of sphincters – for that simple reason – that the damage is permanent.

With regular enemas and but plugs – that particular function can be brought under pretty strict control – to the point where one will not be able to move bowels without enema – and just to get that fixed is painful process (not recommending – just mentioning that there are other way that are not necessarily causing permanent damage).

[AndrewBlack]

Naomi

The anus is notoriously difficult to repair and once ruptured it's a disaster. So much so that it is the reason that in the UK episiotomies ( the labial cuts performed during birth so the labia don't tear ) are done diagonally on one side so that if they extend they don't intrude on the anus. In the US the cut is done in the midline at the back of the vulva compromising risk of anal tearing for a better cosmetic result afterwards.

A temporary bypass of anal continence seems a little harder. Theoretically you could do one sphincter with bo-tox but that's ludicrously extreme. A hollow butt-plug and laxatives perhaps?

A lot easier and almost as humiliating/disabling for the slave would be to remove urinary continence. You can bypass your bladder control simply by inserting a catheter ( sterile technique ), you could cut it short ( at increased risk of ascending infection ) and you'll happily leak any mess your body produces all over the floor/your pants...etc..

Try that one at the roadside

[Donatien]

my owner has requested that i make this inquiry. he would like to know if it would be possible for the sphincter muscles in the anus to be severed so that a slave would no longer have any control over her bowels. personally, the thought is quite frightening to me. can one heal up "normally" with no complications after such a procedure? what would the results be like? thank you for any insights regarding this perverted query.

respectfully,
n.

I have just noticed this thread.As Red-eva has already pointed out, in childbirth midwives or doctors will sometimes make a deliberate cut ( episiotomy) through the side of the vagina to avoid it tearing;which can happen If the baby is large and the vaginal wall does not stretch enough. In the worst kind of tear it goes right through to the anus and rectum ,joining them up. This needs to be repaired surgically and can be quite a difficult procedure sometimes. If any tears in muscles are left, they heal with scar tissue which is lax and weak e.g. womens vaginal walls after childbirth in the third world where incontinence is common. There is a story '' Candice '' by Stephen Rawlings in which his sub girl is sent to an arab prince's palace for surgical remodelling of her anus so that ''the opening was edged by a roll of dark rubbery flesh, its cross-section rather thicker than a pencil and the whole forming an oval, about 3 cm long,raised above the floor of the buttock valley a little, and looking for all the world like a small red sea anenome left straned by the tide''.The purpose was to produce a thick protective anal ring that could be easily stretched to 2 inches diameter without risk of splitting. the downside was a tendency to incontinence, and for the Candice the fact that the operation was deliberately carried out with her in full consciousness in order for her to experience all the pain. ''it happened again and again, the sites of the anguish travelling round the stretched perimeter of her anus.....it seemed to go on for ever.Helga was taking in strips of the sorrounding skin and incorporating them into the anal ring, to give it bulk and strength. .....When Helga cauterised the worst of the bleeding with an electrically heated wire, Candice honked through the gag, and again when she finished off with surgical staples to hold the whole assembly together''. Enough to make one's eyes water at the thought of it- strictly fantasy, although no doubt feasible . It was published by olympia press and may still be available on-line from ''' Olympia@bound.demon.co.uk'' e-mail; --web site www.olympia-press.co.uk