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    art or offence?

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    Urinals made as an open women's mouth: art or offence or just a joke?

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    It's a joke... artsy designer stuff. Taking that any more seriously and giving it underline meaning is, imo, stretching it far to much for it's actual importance.

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    I think artsy...it made me laugh to see the pic...If I was a guy I might feel awkard peeing in it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistresscj View Post
    I think artsy...it made me laugh to see the pic...If I was a guy I might feel awkard peeing in it though.
    Yes that's what I thought..not being into wet sports myself.

    But.. I still felt a bit odd about it, because it is not just in one place but apparently in quite many. All main stream. Perhpas that is why it drew reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Yes that's what I thought..not being into wet sports myself.

    But.. I still felt a bit odd about it, because it is not just in one place but apparently in quite many. All main stream. Perhpas that is why it drew reactions.
    The article did make a point that there were differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistresscj View Post
    I think artsy...it made me laugh to see the pic...If I was a guy I might feel awkard peeing in it though.
    Now there is a point I missed, teeth are always a subliminal fear!

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    As with anything designed by someone...it's whatever the viewer interprets it to be.

    To me it's humorous and harmless, to another it might be offensive.
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    The hoopla made by people against it to me seems all too typical of what I find wrong about the entire feminest movment truth be told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    The hoopla made by people against it to me seems all too typical of what I find wrong about the entire feminest movment truth be told.
    Hm I cannot understand such a sweeping statement, as there is no such thing as a homogenous feminist movement. It is a grass root movement with many groups, many countries and many cultures representated, and they probably have a truckload of issues they can not agree upon.

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    It's a lot funnier to imagine the mouth isn't that of a woman... but of a lipstick wearing male submissive... after all, there are no facial features, and it is just a mouth with bright red lips. Maybe the problem isnt the urinal, but the assumption that if there is a "passive victim" it must be a female?? Maybe they should just lay those fuzzy toilet tank covers on the upper lip of half of them so they look like moustaches.......and maybe whoever is offended should spend their time helping actual humans that are being actually victimized...but that might be more difficult than fussing over where other people pee, and they may not get "results" that they can pat their own backs over. On the other hand, anyone that is freaking out over urinals is too busy tilting at windmills to bother with me, so maybe it's worth having nonsense in the world for that type of person to get excited over... it keeps them from looking to closely at me. ROFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangledNlanguid View Post
    It's a lot funnier to imagine the mouth isn't that of a woman... but of a lipstick wearing male submissive... after all, there are no facial features, and it is just a mouth with bright red lips. Maybe the problem isnt the urinal, but the assumption that if there is a "passive victim" it must be a female?? Maybe they should just lay those fuzzy toilet tank covers on the upper lip of half of them so they look like moustaches.......and maybe whoever is offended should spend their time helping actual humans that are being actually victimized...but that might be more difficult than fussing over where other people pee, and they may not get "results" that they can pat their own backs over. On the other hand, anyone that is freaking out over urinals is too busy tilting at windmills to bother with me, so maybe it's worth having nonsense in the world for that type of person to get excited over... it keeps them from looking to closely at me. ROFL
    At least people here have things to say about this, so I guess it was worth posting :-)

    Actually, way I see it it would the men's reactions that is probably most interesting, they are the ones who are using the urinals.

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    What about the possibility that the designer/manufacturer is just trying to make a statement about the Rolling Stones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post
    What about the possibility that the designer/manufacturer is just trying to make a statement about the Rolling Stones?
    I hadn't thought of that, my association was immediately with that sofa Andy Warhol designed like a pair of red lips.

    I guess the immediate difference is, this is implicitly designed to be used (a) only by men and (b) in a way that's a lot more unkind than sitting on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leo9 View Post
    I hadn't thought of that, my association was immediately with that sofa Andy Warhol designed like a pair of red lips.

    I guess the immediate difference is, this is implicitly designed to be used (a) only by men and (b) in a way that's a lot more unkind than sitting on it.
    But how would you feel about using these urinals? (See link 'more' in ozme's mail as well.)

    Will no male comment on this?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    But how would you feel about using these urinals? (See link 'more' in ozme's mail as well.)

    Will no male comment on this?????
    I would use it, and be mildy amused while doing so.

    I'm not into watersports, or even into that kind of humiliation ... not that anyone can humiliate porcelain objects at all. Now if women were brought in to act as urinals, maybe there would be grounds for objecting, but an image of a mouth (a man's? a woman's?) is nothing more than a cue to the imagination.

    What I imagine is my own business.

    It's like saying that a man who masturbates over a photograph is abusing the woman in the picture, or even over a hentai cartoon.

    In my view, people do need to be considerate of other people's sensitivities, but imposing political correctness is a form of fascism. PC is a standard weapon in the armoury of militant femininsm, and I see it at work here. No woman has been harmed in the production of the urinals, or in their use. They are kept out of sight of women (with the possible exception of cleaners). Really, where's the problem?

    This is just another excuse to make a fuss about nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post
    What about the possibility that the designer/manufacturer is just trying to make a statement about the Rolling Stones?
    Or about me! Step right up! See if you can hit the uvula!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post
    What about the possibility that the designer/manufacturer is just trying to make a statement about the Rolling Stones?

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    Not allowed to complain about that if you didn't previously complain about this. See the smirks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post
    Not allowed to complain about that if you didn't previously complain about this. See the smirks.
    Wow! I hadn't seen that

    For the record, taking up a topic is not complaining, just asking people's opion of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Wow! I hadn't seen that

    For the record, taking up a topic is not complaining, just asking people's opion of it.
    Just for the record, , my comment was addressed to the generic "you". I should've said "if they didn't complain about the first, they don't get to complain about the second.
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    Thank you for showing that it is a whole fad, I had no idea.

    I would still like to know if you have ever met with any of these urinals, and if it were a problem, or brightened your day, or just didn't really register?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Thank you for showing that it is a whole fad, I had no idea.

    I would still like to know if you have ever met with any of these urinals, and if it were a problem, or brightened your day, or just didn't really register?
    None of these... but I have been to an Inn in California where the women's room was outfitted like a Victorian bordello and the men's room was a jungle... and one urinated into the waterfall.

    The Ramada Inn I believe it was called, before the chain, in S.L.O. With themed rooms no less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post
    ...I have been to an Inn in California where the women's room was outfitted like a Victorian bordello and the men's room was a jungle... and one urinated into the waterfall.

    The Ramada Inn I believe it was called, before the chain, in S.L.O. With themed rooms no less.
    That brings back memories. I was there on my 21st birthday. The whole evening had been bar hopping. I hadn't had much experience with alcohol previously, so I had decided to try a different drink at each one to see which I liked the best (not surprising, I didn't remember... or care by the next morning).

    The waterfall urinal was well known, but frankly, I don't really remember it. I do remember they had a waterfall in the lobby as well and when I started over to it, my friends intercepted me and led me to the men's room with the admonition "Oh, no you don't! Wrong waterfall."
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    By the weid and wonderful ways of the net, half of these links landed me on websites concerning foot-ball..However, the 'more' one worked fine and I guess I have the most of it on that one.

    The nuns ones looked sort of peaceful..
    The mouth ones still offends me.
    The ones that looked like being fucked from behind were very very sexy!
    But the same motif with the sink was silly, as you can hardly reach the sink to wash your hands.
    The spread and raised legs also sexy!
    The one where you sit on a toilet shaped as as woman left me indifferent.

    Not much logic in that..

    I showed the pics to a male friend, and asked him what he thought.
    After a moment he said: If you gotta go, you gotta go, and it doesn't matter what the urianal looks like.
    Sensible guy.
    But he also thought that some might have trouble zipping up their fly afterwards..hm? Impractical, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    but he also thought that some might have trouble zipping up their fly afterwards..hm? Impractical, that.
    Tee hee.

    That hadn't occurred to me...till now.
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    A couple of page numbers would have been nice!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    A couple of page numbers would have been nice!
    Well... some are direct links to the pics... and some were page one when I posted them... but time moves on Duncan.
    Get over it!

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    Darn!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post
    Well... some are direct links to the pics... and some were page one when I posted them... but time moves on Duncan.
    Get over it!

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    How about this bit of bathroom hardware?

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