Get the fuck out of America...

[jj_frap]

I don't care if you have to run a donation drive or shut the site down a few weeks to move servers or whatever: There's some serious shit going down right now and the fate of sexual freedom lies in getting all American erotic content onto foreign servers before the Religious Reich takes everything away.

They use guns, so we'd better fucking learn how to pull the trigger if we ever hope to defeat the enemies of freedom.

[Dara]

I'm not American and I have no idea what you're talking about.

[delish]

JJ is talking about the fact that because BDSM Library is hosted on an American server, they're going to have to remove specific content from the site. Hence the reason this was posted in the "ways to improve the site" section.

Take care!

'lish

[allalone46]

It doesn't matter if the server is in the US or off shore. If it sending prohibited matereal the government can have it shut do in the contry or contries tht this matereal is prohibited do to international treatys.

[albear]

The way I understand it is that the site is subject to the laws of the country it's server is in. It's the reason BMEzine's servers are now in Canada. Because the site owner refused to remove pictures and stories of body modification that could be deemed sexual (nipple and genital mods) he was facing big trouble. So he picked up and moved everything over to Canada. Problem solved. Except he can never return to America because he'll be arrested. I was going to post the link, but it's been removed as well! This is where it was

[allalone46]

The way I understand it is that the site is subject to the laws of the country it's server is in. It's the reason BMEzine's servers are now in Canada. Because the site owner refused to remove pictures and stories of body modification that could be deemed sexual (nipple and genital mods) he was facing big trouble. So he picked up and moved everything over to Canada. Problem solved. Except he can never return to America because he'll be arrested. I was going to post the link, but it's been removed as well! This is where it was

Your half right. One country can't require thouse of an other country on the web/net to go by there laws and vice versa. Tere is an other part of the equation though that does go though international law, adn that one contry by triety has to require that something that is legal in one contry but not in an other can't be set from the one were it is legal to the one were it is not. There are some countrys that don't do what is required by the trietys that they signed and than thre is contries that didn't sine these. triety.

[LoversDelight82]

I don't care if you have to run a donation drive or shut the site down a few weeks to move servers or whatever: There's some serious shit going down right now and the fate of sexual freedom lies in getting all American erotic content onto foreign servers before the Religious Reich takes everything away.

They use guns, so we'd better fucking learn how to pull the trigger if we ever hope to defeat the enemies of freedom.

You think it's just the US? Check out the UKs plan to remove the 'smut' from the world...

[slave ruthie]

You think it's just the US? Check out the UKs plan to remove the 'smut' from the world...

its very sad - there's a new witch-hunt building up against 'violent pornography' in the UK without any dispassionate debate about whether there's any evidence linking it to actual crime. its all part of the drive in my country to micro-manage our lives - we are told its to protect us and for our own good but if i remember my history correctly, people like Stalin and Hitler tended to say similar things too! its just a matter of time before the cracks show up and we find out that our moral guardians are just as perverted as the rest of us but too hypocritical to admit it. meanwhile, the BDSM community will be reviled as evil, depraved, sick, dangerous, corrupt, (err i've run out of insults...please add your own lol)

i expect i'll end up in some kind of concentration camp or psychiatric institution being re-educated into proper moral values - unless Master and i manage to escape to a more civilised country that recognises its citizens are actually grown up and not just wayward children for "nanny" to control and protect from ourselves

(oops - i just ranted! - sorry!)

see Y/you in the Gulag!

[cagedsgt]

While I might have all the answers, but one that I do have a strong feeling about isn't that they are trying to just shut everythign down.

As far as I can tell they are targeting those that don't have control, that being if a child can get in and see what they call porn then tehy are going after them.

If the login and age protections are tight and protect the innocent children then they are leaving them alone.

Now this might not be absolute but it is what I have been getting out of everything I have been reading about the problems.

Two major targeted areas, child porn, and child access.

cagedsgt

[learningtopleez]

Hi caged sgt...while it is true that child porn or anything remotely connected to underage children is a target...several other areas are also being watched by our esteemed government....just one of which includes S&M.

It is my opinion that if child access is a concern of anyones....it should be that of the parents of these children...NOT the governments! I personally do not rely on the government to help me raise my two kids, so I surely don't think it neccasary for them to decide what sites should be targeted and which sites should not. Each childs parent or parents are responsible for making sure their kids are not visiting websites that they are not ready for.

And no you can't keep an eye on them 24/7....at least not when they become teenagers as my two are....that is when you have to hope that you raised them well enough to make competent and intelligent decisions....and even then...well....hell...they are teenagers...of course they will screw up!

But if the child is of an impressionable age, you should be by their side....or have some kind of filtering system to keep them off of sites such as those being bashed.

Okay...I'm done now nt: ...sorry ...but I have been wanting to say this for some time now!

[Sir Lanceloth]

ohh bloody hell! yes im an dominant and happy about it! but even that does not prevent me from hating peoble who become so dominant as to wish to run entire nations life and morals! dammit id like to slap some of those holier than thou christians who claim sex is dangerous!!!

ok fit of rage over. It really can pose a big problem for many "perverts" out there that entire previously opened countries now become more and more like an fundamentalist state. My advice: move to another country. Come to denmark, id be happy to welcome you here

In my point of view it is ok to have moral and ethic standards in an country, as long as you allow those that doesnt want to follow it the freedom to leave the country. Of course the moral and ethic standards should then be followed and agreed by an huge majority of the population prior to enforcing such standards and morals. Sadly that is rarely the case, and the hypocrisy of few can easily become the torment of many.