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    Mobius : Challenge

    I will send this book to the first person that can show me a pic of a real person in a full reverce Prayer.
    I mean full Elbows to elbows wrist to wrist. I dont think it can be done so I think this book is pretty safe in my little collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    I will send this book to the first person that can show me a pic of a real person in a full reverce Prayer.
    I mean full Elbows to elbows wrist to wrist. I dont think it can be done so I think this book is pretty safe in my little collection.
    You may be right, but I've got an extremely supple TV slave who can be tied elbows to elbows in the normal position per routine, so I'll try that at our next session.
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    Originally Posted by Mobius
    I will send this book to the first person that can show me a pic of a real person in a full reverce Prayer.
    I mean full Elbows to elbows wrist to wrist. I dont think it can be done so I think this book is pretty safe in my little collection.


    I'd be careful, Mobius. It can be done. Oh, most people can't, but I've met a girl into major Yoga who could press the points of her elbows together - behind her neck. She could also do some very interesting other tricks, too...

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    Ok prove it

    Quote Originally Posted by Dododecapod
    Originally Posted by Mobius
    I will send this book to the first person that can show me a pic of a real person in a full reverce Prayer.
    I mean full Elbows to elbows wrist to wrist. I dont think it can be done so I think this book is pretty safe in my little collection.


    I'd be careful, Mobius. It can be done. Oh, most people can't, but I've met a girl into major Yoga who could press the points of her elbows together - behind her neck. She could also do some very interesting other tricks, too...
    What i said was a "full" reverce prayer.
    Elbo to Elbo Wrist to wrist behind her back.
    get me a good pic with no cheating and the book is yours.
    Frankly I think itis one of those bondage myths like the woman mounted to a pole with her feet not touching the ground. having to be lifted on and off of the pole.

    nice to read about but can not be done. Anitomicly impossible. Sorry for the spelling I have to go and do my after noon route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    What i said was a "full" reverce prayer.
    Elbo to Elbo Wrist to wrist behind her back.
    I would point out that in the picture that you originally refered to, her elbows aren't anywhere near touching. Hard to say from the angle, but I'd say there's a good four inches between her elbows, maybe six.

    I've seen other Benson illos with the forearms touching from wrists to elbows in that pose, and that, I'll readily agree, is anatomically impossible.

    Frankly I think itis one of those bondage myths like the woman mounted to a pole with her feet not touching the ground. having to be lifted on and off of the pole.
    I agree, that can't be done unless you're Vlad the Impaler. Or unless there's a saddle bar, in which case it's a very real and practical torture. But even then it's much more fun if she can just barely get her toes to the ground to try and ease the pain.
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    Well sounds like the book is safe for the time being

    Quote Originally Posted by leo9
    I would point out that in the picture that you originally refered to, her elbows aren't anywhere near touching. Hard to say from the angle, but I'd say there's a good four inches between her elbows, maybe six.

    I've seen other Benson illos with the forearms touching from wrists to elbows in that pose, and that, I'll readily agree, is anatomically impossible.



    I agree, that can't be done unless you're Vlad the Impaler. Or unless there's a saddle bar, in which case it's a very real and practical torture. But even then it's much more fun if she can just barely get her toes to the ground to try and ease the pain.
    The offer is still on the table oh flexible ones.

    I will have to come up with challanges for the other 25 novels once I have read them all up to 15 so far.

    Gord book challange so far
    Contract book one and Two
    A real person with a full reverse Prayer or as close as possible (I will be fare)

    Controlling Cristine
    Hogtied with the victoms feet hitting the back of her head

    When I think of some others I will let you know

    Ps I will also take suggestions Mobius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    Gord book challange so far
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    Controlling Cristine
    Hogtied with the victoms feet hitting the back of her head
    You're definitely safe there. I can get my bondage bunny hogtied with feet to elbows, but I don't believe I've seen even Yoga experts curl far enough back to touch feet to head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leo9
    You're definitely safe there. I can get my bondage bunny hogtied with feet to elbows, but I don't believe I've seen even Yoga experts curl far enough back to touch feet to head.
    There is a benson illustration in AD2477 were her feet are touching her head. I actualy seen a pick in circ olay were her feet hit the back of her head but I dont think she has a spine.
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    Be warned Moby your challenge can be achieved!

    Mobius, I just wanted to make you aware of an advert I saw on TV last night for Danone Shape Yoghurt. It was in the UK though so you may not have it your side of the pond.

    It features lots of lovely ladies doing all sorts of fairly bendy flexi yoga type stuff and finishes with a woman holding the pot of yoghurt between the two palms of her hands, in a full reverse prayer position. (obviously bar the gap the size of the youghurt pot, but she blatantly wasn't struggling, so with a bit of a stretch the full reverse prayer was easily achievable!)

    Now I'm not saying that I know anyone who can do it or anything, far from it. But just be warned, your challenge can be done. I reckon your safe for a while more though.

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    The Reverse prayer challange is still out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jai
    Mobius, I just wanted to make you aware of an advert I saw on TV last night for Danone Shape Yoghurt. It was in the UK though so you may not have it your side of the pond.

    It features lots of lovely ladies doing all sorts of fairly bendy flexi yoga type stuff and finishes with a woman holding the pot of yoghurt between the two palms of her hands, in a full reverse prayer position. (obviously bar the gap the size of the youghurt pot, but she blatantly wasn't struggling, so with a bit of a stretch the full reverse prayer was easily achievable!)

    Now I'm not saying that I know anyone who can do it or anything, far from it. But just be warned, your challenge can be done. I reckon your safe for a while more though.
    I will ship any where in the world via usps (slow mail )
    The complete "The Contract" set 1-2

    For a Real True reverse prayer Pic

    I mean full on elbo's to wrist's full metal contact. Oh and it can not be a todler I know they are very flexible but dont do it not legal in the states and not into it.

    Dont think it can be done. Well maybe not with out dislocating the subs shoulders. And I dont want that to happen.

    So "Na ne na ne na na' I still have the books for now.
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    Reverse prayer (1)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    I will ship any where in the world via usps (slow mail )
    The complete "The Contract" set 1-2

    For a Real True reverse prayer Pic

    I mean full on elbo's to wrist's full metal contact. Oh and it can not be a todler I know they are very flexible but dont do it not legal in the states and not into it.

    Dont think it can be done. Well maybe not with out dislocating the subs shoulders. And I dont want that to happen.
    OK, well, Martika couldn't quite do it at a first try: it's not easy to see with the black on black, but if you look carefully at the ropes you can see there's about 4" between her elbows. (In other words, it is already the equivalent of the picture that started this topic.)

    But she's confident that if she works at her Yoga she'll manage the full contact before long.
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    Reverse prayer (2)

    A better view of the whole position.
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    Reverse prayer (3)

    And in case you wondered what a slave tied in that position is good for...
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    Ok Im impressed

    Lot farther than I thought could be done
    not quit elbows to wrist.

    I will be fair and say if you can get it to within 2 inches I will call it a draw and send you the books.

    But please do not do any thing that will couse her harm A pair of Gord books are not worth a dislocated shoulder.

    Get it to 2 inches and I will send the books to you.

    But I have to coution you at the moment I am on summer hiatis. AKA No school No drivng no driving no mony.it may not be until late summer that i will be able to afford to send the books to you.
    But you make it to 2 inches I will send them deal is a deal it just might take a while
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    Reverse Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    Get it to 2 inches and I will send the books to you.

    But I have to coution you at the moment I am on summer hiatis. AKA No school No drivng no driving no mony.it may not be until late summer that i will be able to afford to send the books to you.
    But you make it to 2 inches I will send them deal is a deal it just might take a while
    No worries, it's the challenge that interests us. And I won't dislocate her shoulders, it's actually quite hard to apply pressure to close the gap. I think it'll need a strap round the forearms to get that last few inches. But Martika loves being tied up in evil positions like that, so we'll keep working at it.
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    Thread split for neatnes purpose :)

    Hope you don’t mind Mobius - here your challenge has its own life!

    Congrats to Leo9 and lovely assistant! impressive!

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    Thank you Red Eva

    You are truely a misstris of moderating.

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    New thread.

    Good! I rather hoped you would. I was aware we were drifting a long way off topic, but it seemed a pity to drop an interesting subject just because it didn't fit the thread.
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    Hmmm.. this is close
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    of course a few moments after I post I remember, you were looking for reverse prayer.. not just elbows touching... oh well. still anice imagage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalluss
    of course a few moments after I post I remember, you were looking for reverse prayer.. not just elbows touching... oh well. still anice imagage
    It is indeed, and the picture beautifully conveys the contorted tension of such bondage poses.
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    Question?

    Whats the green ring on your cock for? I've become a big fan of cock rings over the past year or so...always up for something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJerseyGuy
    Whats the green ring on your cock for? I've become a big fan of cock rings over the past year or so...always up for something new.
    I do believe that it is the end of a condum. Safe sex you know.
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    Green ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius
    I do believe that it is the end of a condum. Safe sex you know.
    This is correct: bottom ring of a green apple flavour condom. Sorry to be so boringly responsible :-)

    (I heard a rumour many years ago that some gay enterprise was aiming to develop a sperm-flavoured condom, does anyone know if that ever happened? Though what I really want is a condom that tastes of month-old smegma. That would sort out the slaves from the players <EG>.)
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    Green ring

    LOL!!! So that's what one looks like! Fortunately I'm in a long term monogamous relationship. I've bought my share of condoms over the years...just never saw what one looked like out of the wrapper before!

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    you mean ellbows liek this?
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    while you have wonderful flexibility the position that

    Quote Originally Posted by myri_SN
    you mean ellbows liek this?
    the chalange is for a reverse prayer.

    You have elbos to wrist but for a reverse prayer the hands have to be up the back like in the picture at the top of the thread.

    But the challange is for wrist to elbows full contact.
    But to be anitomicly fair I am allowing 2 inches at the elbos . Nice try but "NO SOUP FOR YOU" next!
    as the soup nazi would say.
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    Excellent challenge and a some very good points to be made from it. The first? Don't believe everything you see. The second? Artists can and do take advantage of artistic license. (I should know, I am an artist.) The third? Some things should be left to the experienced. lol

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    Find anyone?

    Just going through some older threads, and wondering if you ever found anyone Mobius?

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    The Closest that any one got was Leo9 sub
    But her elbos were still to far apart.

    But I will say that she got allot farther than I could.

    Give it a try The Book's are still up for grabs.
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