Why BDSM porn featuring larger women?

[Kingsand]

Vanilla porn featuring fat women is widely available, but hardly any, if any BDSM porn seems to be. Any comments or ideas about why this is?

[Finding_Fantasy]

Maybe perhaps with BDSM the women (if in the submissive role) seem to have the need of better flexibility so that they can be tied in the many odd and seemingly un-humanlike poses. A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.

I am not certain, but that is just my thoughts.

[fetish101]

hmm..narrowing the niche even more...bbw and bdsm!

you are unfortunately part of the minority that share both an interest in bdsm and bbw and because I would imagine people like you are few and far between, it makes sense that the supply of this type of porn meets the demand, which is small.

[j]

There was a series by Jjolo with an obviously overweight main character into extreme pain. I can't help you further as I edited the lard out on my copy... reader's privilege.

Vanilla porn featuring fat women is widely available, but hardly any, if any BDSM porn seems to be. Any comments or ideas about why this is?

[BDSM_Tourguide]

While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

"I like 'em big, and round..." - Sir Mixalot

[le forgeron]

A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.

That's might as well be a producer issue: Larger women would required really strong premises, which means a higher cost.
Assume a simple sling.
For a light weight, most won't bother about the fixations.
With a heavier load, quality is mandatory; As quality usually doesn't come cheap...

Back to the original remark: It might just be a geographical issue.
Most US movie features thin and healthy people, even when that country has probably the highest rate of fat people. US bdsm movies are just like other US movie.
From personal experience, German bdsm movies can have larger women (along with real sex act, which US ones do not by law, I believe).
Larger women in these movies could be top or bottom.
Weight does not mean amorphous: you need to move the cane right, even if you're a large top!

[myri_SN]

Maybe perhaps with BDSM the women (if in the submissive role) seem to have the need of better flexibility so that they can be tied in the many odd and seemingly un-humanlike poses. A larger women would probably lack the mobility and flexibility to accomplish such poses.

I am not certain, but that is just my thoughts.

hmm i don't think i lack the mobility or flexibility...

[Pickety Witch]

Me neither!

[fetish101]

While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

"I like 'em big, and round..." - Sir Mixalot

While I don't want to dredge up the horid discussion on bdsm girls and weight issues....all I was saying was that the demand for pictures of larger women in bdsm scenes is much smaller than the demand for pictures of more slimmer and toned girls in bdsm scenes. My proof is the favorite picture thread.

[woodsman'sgame]

fetish101 said:
"all I was saying was that the demand for pictures of larger women in bdsm scenes is much smaller than the demand for pictures of more slimmer and toned girls in bdsm scenes. My proof is the favorite picture thread"

The slim women that predominate the favorite picture thread probably has a lot to do with what is available on the web. The models on the web are chosen for their "ideal" look rather than their interest in BDSM. I find the real women and men in the personal photography thread who are not so perfect to be much more erotic.

As far as the flexibility is concerned, I'm relatively small, but I'll be damned if I can get in some of those positions I see in those pictures. Even when I was 20, I don't think I could have bent that way without tearing a few ligaments. I don't think size is the only factor here.

[Dslave]

I hadn't noticed but I have to giggle a bit after reading a post recently about how there are too many "ugly fat girls" in BDSM and not enough pretty skinny girls. ROFL Okay, I know, it doesn't help but I just think you and the other guy need to share notes, maybe he can help you find something. I know, I am no help at all, I am sorry.

[Garmonbozia]

I can't help you further as I edited the lard out on my copy... reader's privilege.

jeanne, I haven't laughed that hard for quite a long time. Thank you very much.

Jason

[MrJerseyGuy]

From personal experience, German bdsm movies can have larger women (along with real sex act, which US ones do not by law, I believe).

HHHmmm I may have to check out the German market! I haven't found a decent bdsm porn yet. They all have bondage and torture with no real sex, or visa versa.

I just got the DVD to Story of O. It started out like it was going to be really hot...than fizzled out.

[le forgeron]

HHHmmm I may have to check out the German market! I haven't found a decent bdsm porn yet. They all have bondage and torture with no real sex, or visa versa.

All US ones like that... Latex/high heel/big breast with sex are easy to find. Real bondage with sex... none from the US. More hope from Europ.
I might compute a list of the movies I have seen with bondage & sex, if you're interested for some title samples.

I just got the DVD to Story of O. It started out like it was going to be really hot...than fizzled out.

I read the book some years ago.
Psychologically interesting, but I believe any movie of it would be disappointing.
(and the book is very historicaly-marked, (not easily adaptable to modern era... I know, it's only 30/40 years ago!)

[SirW]

All US ones like that... Real bondage with sex... none from the US. More hope from Europe.

The reason for this is that it is illegal to produce a commercial (one in which you make money with) that combines BDSM with any form of penetration sex. So any movies that have anything resembling bondage, whippings, etc... can not also show any sex that includes penetration of cocks, dildos, strap-ons etc. This is a wonderful legacy of the Reagan administration and that much loved AG Ed Mease. The sex you do see in US made films is moslty lesbian type but no dildo or strap-on penetrations. But vibrators that don't penetrate are ok.
Even some older (pre-80's ) mainstrem porn movies (800 Fantasy Lane comes to mind) have had the BDSM sex edited out in newer DVD versions.
So your only hope of sex with your BDSM is to buy an American made movie sold in Europe or get amatuer ones.

SirW

[myri_SN]

The reason for this is that it is illegal to produce a commercial (one in which you make money with) that combines BDSM with any form of penetration sex. So any movies that have anything resembling bondage, whippings, etc... can not also show any sex that includes penetration of cocks, dildos, strap-ons etc. This is a wonderful legacy of the Reagan administration and that much loved AG Ed Mease. The sex you do see in US made films is moslty lesbian type but no dildo or strap-on penetrations. But vibrators that don't penetrate are ok.
Even some older (pre-80's ) mainstrem porn movies (800 Fantasy Lane comes to mind) have had the BDSM sex edited out in newer DVD versions.
So your only hope of sex with your BDSM is to buy an American made movie sold in Europe or get amatuer ones.

SirW

but what with www.insex.com, i have seen videos from them and they do show penetration
hidesssss

[BDSM_Tourguide]

The sex you do see in US made films is moslty lesbian type but no dildo or strap-on penetrations.

I beg to differ. Unless I am mistaken, the servers at hogtied.com, whippedass.com, and wiredpussy.com are all US servers and they frequently show penetration by strap ons and dildos.

[MrJerseyGuy]

but what with www.insex.com, i have seen videos from them and they do show penetration
hidesssss

That's some really sick stuff! So of course I loved it!


That is a really intense site. I've never paid a dime for porn on the internet but I'm really giving this one some thought!

[SirW]

I beg to differ. Unless I am mistaken, the servers at hogtied.com, whippedass.com, and wiredpussy.com are all US servers and they frequently show penetration by strap ons and dildos.

Well you might be right in that regard. Now, of course I was referring to movies I have seen on DVD or video which were produced as a film. Maybe the dildo/strap-on doesn't meet the penetration rule if it is same sex??? Given the nuttiness of a government that says you can show bondage but not the sex acts that would be a part of it naturally, who knows.
All I know is that for any U.S. made BDSM film I have seen, you can not show penetration sex acts, or come shots either. All of the BDSM films with sex acts and come shots (to say nothing of GS) have been made in Europe/Asia.

[myri_SN]

Well you might be right in that regard. Now, of course I was referring to movies I have seen on DVD or video which were produced as a film. Maybe the dildo/strap-on doesn't meet the penetration rule if it is same sex??? Given the nuttiness of a government that says you can show bondage but not the sex acts that would be a part of it naturally, who knows.
All I know is that for any U.S. made BDSM film I have seen, you can not show penetration sex acts, or come shots either. All of the BDSM films with sex acts and come shots (to say nothing of GS) have been made in Europe/Asia.

well as far as i know insex in in New York and PD is definetely male (unless .... ).

[Jill Bird]

Pickety Witch. nice band in the late 60's. i saw them at the Cavendish Club in Blackburn many years ago. Thanks for bringing back the memory, Jill Bird.

[Jill Bird]

Pickety Witch. nice band in the late 60's. i saw them at the Cavendish Club in Blackburn many years ago. Thanks for bringing back the memory, Jill Bird.

[Dngnkeeper]

You are so right about US BDSM movies and web sites. From a producers point of view it may be "legal" to show BDSM and penetration, in some places. But in doing so they will eventually attract the attention of BIG Brother. Big Brother means paying big $$$ for the lawyers and a suspension of operations. This is not in their best interests. Fortunately for our European friends they have not had the conservative christians dictating the "legal" moral values. Also it is cheaper to produce a movie without sex or penetration simply because you have to pay the actors more for this type of performance. Then there the legalities of STD's etc to be considered. So along as there is a demand for sexless BDSM and people are willing to pay for it they will deliver.

As for the original discussion of physical size I have to agree with TG. There are many women in the lifestyle who do not fit into the skinny category. I had the good fortune to be involved with a bondage website at its inception. Of the two women involved one was small and the other large. While Karena outweighed her partner Vesta 2 to 1 she lacked neither the flexibility or the spirit of her smaller sister. While Karena has moved behind the camera the site to this day still features some larger women.

I have dusted off a few of the dungeons archives for example.

[rallan]

The lack of BBW bondage porn is (as others have pointed out) because it's a niche within a niche. Only a reasonably small share of the porn market consumes BBW porn, and only a small share of the market consumes BDSM porn, so logically the amount of people who'd want both at once is going to be a niche within a niche. There's probably bondage porn with larger women in it out there somewhere (virtually _everything_ seems to have at least one video or magazine dedicated to it), but there's a sound financial explanation for why they're so scarce: (perceived or actual) lack of demand.

[stspreservus23]

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[Inishmore]

It's funny, I never thought about it. I'm a bbw, and I fantasize about BDSM. However, I have no interest in having bbw's in my porn. I think it would turn me off. I need to think about that for a minute.

[BorderCollie]

While it may be true that there might not be a lot of overweight BDSM models on the internet, I assure you that there is not shortage of real-life people that are overweight and quite happily practicing BDSM. Attend a BDSM/fetish event in your area, you'll see.

"I like 'em big, and round..." - Sir Mixalot

Your dead right here Tourguide,
My Canadian sub is a larger girl, but by no means a heffer.
The show pony models are all thin & petite, but the real life sub females are all errrrr packing a little emergency skin.

Cheers

BorderCollie

[Cokera]

It's funny, I never thought about it. I'm a bbw, and I fantasize about BDSM. However, I have no interest in having bbw's in my porn. I think it would turn me off. I need to think about that for a minute.

Well I would venture to say that you may like it if you thought about it for awhile. Personally I prefer a BBW in "any" type of relationship. I have found almost every single one to have a extremely fun personality as well as a open mind on their sexuality. As far as different positions etc. People are people they only do and enjoy what their minds and bodys allow them too anyway.

[Inishmore]

People are people they only do and enjoy what their minds and bodys allow them too anyway.

You are correct - thank you.

[Cokera]

I do think so and hey in just a while.................
I will enjoy the flesh again.
There is simply nothing on the good lords earth better than the simple earthy tone of a women. Or a man if it is your preference. In a state of total non-control or in-control of ALL sense's......................... Damn you have to love the inner body reflexes of one on one or multi sexual sense's activities.