poll for deleting snuff stories

[Donatien]

[Quote:
Originally Posted by boccaccop200g
The ACLU stood up for blacks when they were being lynched in the south. They stood up for Jews when there were quotas on Jewish admissions to certain colleges and universities. They stood up for Japanese-Americans when they were being thrown in concentration camps during World War II. They stood up for freedom of thought and association during they hysterical frenzy of post-WW II McCarthyism.

And they will stand up for you if the right-wing zealots in this country ever decide to go after pornographers and their readers and viewers.

[QUOTE=alex Bragi
Only, I can’t help but feel that you’re trivialising the rights of women, jews, blacks and the minority groups mentioned in this manifesto by comparing them to a bunch of blue movies, dirty pictures and sex stories. I simply fail to see the equation between someone not getting all the porn they think they’re entitled to and being discriminated against because of your race, sex, or religion.

And, of course I will always be on the front line of anyone who dares to harm or corrupt “society’s most vulnerable members”—our kids. And that’s why, to that degree, I do support a certain amount of censorship.[/QUOTE]



Alex I think Boccaccio's post has to be looked at in the context of him defending the record of ACL in its work supporting a range of freedoms.

Nevertheless I think it is right and proper for society to protect the freedoms of minors, even if that means censorship of some material especially photographic and some aspects of chat rooms, where they are used for “grooming”.

However my main point is on the question of whether snuff stories should be excluded, and I think that would be a pity, when all the dulcettt inspired ones are so sidesplittingly funny. How any one can take a story seriously, when a beautiful teen calmly discusses the finer culinary skills whilst she is the one roasting on a spit, is beyond me.

Another point is that throughout history, certain personality types, usually left brain dominant,who regard themselves as the arbitors of what is right, and being ambitious frequently get to the top of organisations and govenments, tend to pronounce on issues such as pornography, denouncing it virulently, only to be found time and again as regular users of it, along with being the authoritarian sadists that I have referred to in the thread on sadism. They were hate figures to De Sade, who held strong views against the abuse of power by the strong, long before they got him locked up as a pornographer, and liberteen, when their real purpose was revenge, that he had dared to depict their truly rapacious, and hypocritical attitudes in his novels. Nothing changes, except technology. So the very figures who are most antagonistic to porn or the like are not infrequently the greatest users, something they justify to themselves on the basis , that unlike lesser mortals, they are not corruptible!

[boccaccio2000g]

You certainly raise some very good points there, however…

I fully support any adult being allowed to participate in any consensual sexual play, and the right to view or read pretty much anything of the same. Only, I can’t help but feel that you’re trivialising the rights of women, jews, blacks and the minority groups mentioned in this manifesto by comparing them to a bunch of blue movies, dirty pictures and sex stories.

###Of course the right to read or see pornography is trivial compared to those other matters. But the right to read, see, hear, and say what you want is not trivial at all. Wouldn't you agree that without freedom of expression, there is no liberty? Pornography is only the black sheep in the family of expression, but it is a sheep that should not be sacrificed on the altar of conformity. ###

I simply fail to see the equation between someone not getting all the porn they think they’re entitled to and being discriminated against because of your race, sex, or re ligion. It’s your right to express your view for sure, but please try to keep it in perspective.

And, of course I will always be on the front line of anyone who dares to harm or corrupt “society’s most vulnerable members”—our kids. And that’s why, to that degree, I do support a certain amount of censorship.

### I do too. I see no reason why a consumer needs to have the ability to buy an adult publication from a sidewalk newsrack for instance, where it would prove offensive to some. Certainly all participants in sexual films and photography must be capable of informed consent -- i.e. be adults with the mental capacity to make such decisions, unimpaired by alcohol or drugs. Those standards would not countenance child pornography or any sexual activity in which someone is harmed against their will.

Boccaccio

[Alex Bragi]

Boccaccio,

That's an excellent and well articulated response, and one I will certainly ponder.

Alex

[Robin Lane]

Agreed...now, let's see if we can convince more authors
who write snuff stories to add the code when submitting.

I could rant for ours about how I read a great story only to
have one of the key characters die. I would have liked a warning!

Or for purists, who argue that snuff is only death in a sexual context,
then perhaps we should request another code to be added.
Something like CD for character death.

That should help warn readers who may want to avoid these tales
or prepare themselves.

It is quite reasonable to assume that stories posted on BDSM Library, or any site or publication that contains erotica, snuff should be defined as a classification into which a story must fall IF such a story uses any expression or depiction of death in an erotic context. Readers have the right to be informed of a story's content. This would be true whether in erotica or some other genre`, in any type of media... print, television, periodicles, etc. If a story contains any such potentially upsetting content, (snuff, incest, violence, etc.,) it is the duty of the author AND the author's publisher to ensure that anyone interested in reading the story understands that it contains such content. This is true in any kind of entertainment media, not just fiction, and any genre`, not just erotica.

Robin

"Girls... God's gift to women."

[Robin Lane]

Snuff?

Come now good people. I am going to assume by being here, that you all know how to read. And if you know how to read, then the bright red word 'snuff' that is in the story code's should be enough to warn you off. You don't want to read anything with snuff in it, then avoid those that have it in the codes. But do not, assume that you have the right to pick and choose what is appropriate for the rest of us.

I happen to write vampire novel's for this site, and in them, there is of course going to be snuff, I mean what blood sucking night walking story is complete without one or two death's? And if you don't want to read them, that won't hurt me. I happen to believe in freedom of speech and expression. Most assuredly in this type forum.

So if you don't want to read any snuff works, then just check out the code's and skip them.


V. L. Marquette.

ABSOLUTELY! That's how it's done! Funny how that seems to escape so many otherwise intelligent, reasonable human beings who believe in freedom.

Robin

[xsnaggle]

Ok, so here comes the issue of pedophile. Strictly speaking, stories containing any character under 18 is pedophile. But as stories or fantasies, teenage sex may not be offensive to many readers. So here the line is a bit blurred. Normally, we draw the line at 12-year-old in case of fictions. The story codes is one way to tell readers what's going on in a story. So if anyone see any story contains character(s) 12 or younger and it doesn't have the code "Pedophilia", please be sure to let me know and indicate where it is in the story. Thank you very much!

Jinn

I don't agree with your basic statement. Under 18 may be guaged as paedophilia whre you live but in UK the legal age of consent is 16. In holland it is 14, as it is in Denmark. In Japan there is no age of consent at all. In 1904 in England, where people talk of returning to victorian values (Actually this was edwardian) the age od consent was 12! I have knowb 12 year old girls who were far more sexually aware than their mothers. so is Paedophilia in the letter of the law or the mind of the person who thinks of it???

[alura]

I also agree. It's like the people that are suing Mcdonald's for being fat. Puleese, if you don't want to be fat, don't go there. If you don't like snuff, don't read it.

ABSOLUTELY! That's how it's done! Funny how that seems to escape so many otherwise intelligent, reasonable human beings who believe in freedom.

Robin

[Winnie]

I agree that we readers are not entitled to say what may or may not be posted here. What I do ask of the authors is to please ensure that the story codes are ALL there. Some times I am sure that the content is not exactly as advertised, but I think that most snuff ones are there.
If it is not "off topic", can we also have one (story code that is) for long narrative passages about the particulars of any guns that the characters obtain. At the moment a couple of stories in S-O-L read like an endorsement for your , I think, N.R.A.
Fine if you want to put them in the story, but please tell me so I can avoid the things. I have as yet to read a story whereby the auther give about a page extolling the virues a one particular engine over another in the same motor car.
Regards, Winnie.

[agp_millie]

Apart from the varying Laws of different countries and imaterial of what is written, so long, quite rightly, that we know in advance of what we are reading or going to the cinema to see etc., etc.
This side of the planet seems to become unbearably Politically Correct. (Quick fingers down throat) Even I as a very 'all woman' mom with 3 babes, my eldest goes to jnr. school, felt guilty talking to another mom's kid outside our school the other day, because the mom came flying up and dragged her daughter away, telling her off for talking to strangers! My 6yr. old son was wanting to invite her to his b/day party. Gawd knows what it's like for guys.

A famous quote by someone.
'Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidence of the wise.'
So very true in everything we do.

Official declaration. (smile)
ps. the attached story is for Adult reading only and NOT for those easily offended or feel strongly opposed to snuff stories.
pps. Is quite erotic to me, tho' (blush) In FANTASY.

xxx

[ghostsblood]

For whatever reasons an author depicts what he does, is is not his responsibility to ensure people do not get offended or encouraged any more than Gaspar Noé is responsible for ppl being raped in underpasses.

What is offensive or erotic is in the eye of the beholder. A story could be written that denounces the fundamental tenements of a religion (whatever religion) and i guarrantee more people will be offended than by a story depicting snuff or ped.. i doubt there will ever be a religious or politically sensitive code. However, there are codes for snuff and ped etc.. and as long as they are used accordingly there should be no cause for concearn.. should there?

Personally I write my stories as I do because I want to create the most horrific, visceral and unnerving body of words that it is in my ability to create. If I was to excuse myself of these thoughts, I would simply blame my Id for regularly bypasing my ego and super ego

[agp_millie]

Reading your comment Messrs. Ghostblood, put it completely in perspective.

And would LOVE to read one of your *nasty* stories, while taking a break from washing, ironing, scrubbing, fluffing, feeding and all my other varied, homely duties.
And sorry Jacky Collins, but i need MORE!

(smile)

This story possibly stopped me from wanting to try the rape fantasy i've had for years, as most girls.

DO NOT READ IF SNUFF OFFENDS YOU or under 29.

Archive name: blind.txt (MF, rape, bdsm, snuff)
Authors name: Chac (Anon Address)
Story title : Blindfolded

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This work is copyrighted to the author © 2002. Please
don't remove the author information or make any changes
to this story. All rights reserved. Thank you for your
consideration.
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Blindfolded (MF, rape, bdsm, snuff)
by Chac (Anon Address)

***

I woke up. I had no idea where I was. I suddenly
realized that my eyes were open but I could only see
pitch-blackness. I tried to call out but found my mouth
was covered by, most likely, duct tape. Then I noticed
my hands were bound above my head. I tried to move my
legs and felt the same thing.

I was lying down. It felt like I was blindfolded and
tied to a bed. My heart raced as I listened for any
familiar sound I could detect. I heard nothing. My mind
blared as I realized I was totally naked. I tried
freeing myself by thrashing my body and twisting my
arms and legs. The restraints wouldn't budge. I
couldn't think rationally, I just heard ringing and saw
nothing.

I could hardly breath because of the gag on my mouth. I
snorted through my nose and made muted calls for help
as I continued my mania. Finally I forced myself to
calm down realizing panic would be my worst enemy in
this situation. The ringing subsided and closing my
eyes helped relieve the anxiety caused by the
blindfold.

The only thing I could remember was leaving work Friday
evening. I couldn't tell if it was day or night and I
didn't know what day it was or how long I'd been lying
there. I imagined every horrible possibility and nearly
lost my mind worrying about what was going to happen to
me.

I had obviously been kidnapped and most likely drugged.
I didn't feel injured. I didn't feel like any of my
parts had been violated either. I was surprisingly
relieved while I was unbelievably afraid at the same
time.

I heard what sounded like a light switch. I immediately
opened my eyes expecting to finally see but was
sickened when I saw only the same horrid blackness and
remembered my blindfold. I was on the brink of
insanity. I imagined the most evil, disgusting looking
man standing there with the power of life and death
over me.

He spoke, "I guess you're wondering why you're here."

His voice was calm; almost pleasant, but the
circumstances made him a demon to me none the less. He
didn't say a word, how could I? I heard the bed creak
and felt it shift and imagined him climbing onto it.
The bed stilled, I waited. My mind was blaring again
and I was pushing nearer insanity.

I felt something warm and moist on my toes and tried to
pull my foot away but was stopped short by my binding.
Was he was licking my toes and feet? It was unbearable.
My stomach tensed and I fisted my feet and hands but
was totally helpless to escape or defend myself. He
worked his way up my calf, passed my knee and to my
inner upper thigh. Soon he was about two inches from my
vagina licking and sucking my thigh, alternating from
one thigh to the other.

I was horrified. I tried to think about something else,
anything else; I tried to escape mentally but I kept
returning to reality of what was happening to me, and
the feeling of being repulsed by his advances.

I could feel him licking my pussy hairs and he held
them between his teeth pulling and breathing hot air.
My skin crawled. Suddenly he plunged his tongue into me
and began sucking and eating me relentlessly.

I held back vomit as he ate my pussy against my will. I
felt my pussy involuntarily lubricating. The thought
that I was getting wet automatically -- despite my
obvious protest against what was happening to me caused
me to snap.

I lost all resistance and my limbs hung limp. I could
no loner move. I was somewhere else. My thoughts
wandered through subconscious as my captor continued
invade my defenseless body.

Sometime later I vaguely realized that he'd slid his
unusually large prick into me. I experienced it like a
nearly forgotten memory. I heard his panting and the
wet suction sounds of his pumping in and out of my
pussy, but didn't really comprehend that it was
actually my body that was being violated.

My thoughts wandered further into subconscious
dalliance and I was not in that horrible place anymore.
I was leaving work. driving to my normal hang out, a
swingers club near Deep Ellum in downtown Dallas. I was
having a few drinks with a couple I liked to swap with.

In my mind I heard them say, "So are you still in?"

I said, "Why of course, I wouldn't miss this
opportunity for the world."

What opportunity was I talking about? This too seemed
like a distant memory. Suddenly, without further delay,
everything came together: what I was doing tied up and
blindfolded with this sick bastard fucking me, and what
I was talking about when I said, "Of course, I wouldn't
miss this opportunity for the world."

I had paid my swinging friends to arrange my own
abduction and rape. I'd always fantasized about being
kidnapped and raped. I constantly masturbated, creating
scenarios related to the subject. And now, here I was
being kidnapped and raped by a stranger and it really
wasn't what I'd expected. I was truly experiencing the
horrible feelings I had fantasized about countless
times. I remembered agreeing that I should be heavily
drugged so I wouldn't change my mind.

I snapped out of my trance. My pussy and asshole burned
hot as I consciously realized this was the kidnapping
and rape I had paid five hundred dollars for. I opened
my eyes and welcomed the blackness that met me. I felt
the bleeding wounds on my wrists and ankles and drooled
hot wetness from my hole as my rapist obliged my
fantasy.

I began raising my hips from the bed to meet each of
his jousts. I marveled at his coldness, being able to
go through with such a horrible act. I thought he must
tell himself the girl really knows what's going on and
that is the only way he can do it.

I noticed he was talking to me saying, "Yeah you little
dirty cunt, you think you're too good to be raped. I'm
gonna kill you right when I cum too."

I couldn't believe how serious he sounded as I climaxed
for the second time within seconds of the first. I felt
his ridged, bloated prick impale me over and over again
as my muted screams echoed in my head. Then I felt him
fill me with his boiling broth as my thighs quivered
uncontrollably and my stomach and back knotted in
ecstasy. He moaned as he came to a stop, his cock
pushed all the way up my womb. His prick twitched and
spasmed as his last few drops oozed deep within me.

Then he pulled out slowly and I heard the bed creak
again as he apparently got up. I laid there
semiconscious and enjoyed the pleasant aftermath of my
multiple orgasms.

Suddenly I felt a deep sting and a dull pain in my
chest as I came to the stark realization I was being
stabbed with a knife. The blade was removed from my
chest and then pounded even harder into my vagina. I
screamed into my gag, I felt blood filling my mouth and
I realized that this was my last moment on earth...

END

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
This story was written as an adult fantasy. The author
does not condone the described behavior in real life in
anyway shape or form.

[ghostsblood]

Reading your comment Messrs. Ghostblood, put it completely in perspective.

And would LOVE to read one of your *nasty* stories, while taking a break from washing, ironing, scrubbing, fluffing, feeding and all my other varied, homely duties.
And sorry Jacky Collins, but i need MORE!

Thanks Millie

I have a post in this forum.. "My Current story (BEWARE....)" It links to my story.. but bareinmind it is not finnished.. nor properly edited.. I am currently updating it before adding any new chapters. Feel free to read it and drop a comment in the thread

=^_^=

[Sweep]

Hello,
I would like to say that the snuff category in stories should be removed... It hurts me a lot, and I don't understand why it is permitted to speak about that stuff on this site... It is going too far...
Regards
Hairdresser

I can understand how you feel and I an revolted by snuff stories also. I'm not that keen on incest either. BUT many people are also revolted by the other BDSM stuff that I do like.
I think that as long as a story is clearly labled then it is OK. One must also remember that there is a difference between fiction and fact. So just because folk are writing about snuff (or incest) and others are reading it does not mean that there is going to be any increase in this type of behaviour in real life. In the mainstream published market there are huge numbers of books on murder and theft. I doubt whether a good story should be confused with fact.

[Nikita]

Here are my two cents (as if anyone cares)::morte1:

1. This is a moderated site where posts are screened

2. Freedom of speech is a right unless there is a perceived threat against someone

3. Common sense should dictate the content of a story; though that could be a stretch for some

4. Members should be their own parents; if you don't like what you are reading or watching, change the channel

5. Personally, snuff stories make me ill; when I run across one, I skip it

Enough said (as if anyone cares)

Nik

[teeny70]

Freedom of speech is the issue. If you start banning one subject, soon you will be banning another and another. Look at the reader's response and votes for these stproes. amd you will be convinced that they belong here and are appreciated by many. In fact, some of them have top ratings, and include many other subjects in the story. If you ban, authors will go elsewhere, and BDSM Library will be that much diminished.

"Give me liberty AND give me Death".

[pejanon]

I don't like snuff (death+sex) but that is MY problem.
Eros\Thanatos is worthy avenue of exproration.
Codes and warning are fair but ban, censorship etc are THE ORIGINAL DIRTY WORDS. Don' even THINK about it
Thank you
Have fun.

Pejanon

[BDSM_Tourguide]

I'm pretty sure that, unless the government makes stories about snuff illegal, the snuff category isn't going anywhere on this website. This thread does spark some fun and interesting conversations every month or so, though. It is quite interesting to read different people's views.

[pejanon]

Actually if snuff stories were made illegal we might just get BETTER snuff stories!

Just kidding.

[Kelli]

I personally will not read a snuff story, but that's just me. If you don't like them, then don't read them. No one is forcing you too, and there are many other stories out there without it for you to read. Freedom of speech, please don't be trying to take it away from the authors.

[agp_millie]

I personally will not read a snuff story, but that's just me. If you don't like them, then don't read them. No one is forcing you too, and there are many other stories out there without it for you to read. Freedom of speech, please don't be trying to take it away from the authors.

I'm amazed this 'thread' has gone for so long. There are many things out There that are as bad, if not worse than snuff, that we read in our Daily Tabloids.

Fiction is imagination, FACT is fact. Okay, there are many murders comitted with imagination. In fact, one of my favourites of all time has got to be Sweeny Todd.
Maybe some of you haven't heard of Mr.& Mrs. Sweeny Todd, Barber's & Famous meat pies. ... Well, apart from how single, no ties men got haircuts there cheap on thursdays and a quick slit of the throat with Mr.Todd's razor and the drop down into the cellar below, thru' a trapdoor in the chair. Ingenious.
How Mrs.Todd used to drag the bodies to the hanging area. A badly in need of hygene place where she hung the 'meat' to drain of blood and made it into delicious 'Black puddings' [Google-it.] which reminds me, we do that with our sows placenta. But that is traditional.
And then Mrs.Todd worked her human hair socks off to get out pie after pie of various cuts of the human torso.

Being as i love my cooking, if only my Hubby was a Barber, we could open up 'Hackers Barbers. Hairdressor to the non-newsworthy' and 'Hackers Olde English Pye Shoppe' ... anyway,

I digress. Totally agree with Kelly. What about a thread on Cooking meat? Would anyone be interested in more unusual methods? All mammals are available as well as fish, ofcourse.

[slave802120]

Children's fairytales are filled with fantasies of people being killed in all manner of gruesome ways, as well as being cooked and eaten. Here's a short extract from something I wrote recently on the subject of snuff fantasy:

Insofar as "cannibalism for entertainment" goes, look no further than the fairytales of the Brothers Grimm or Hans Christian Anderson. Modern day authors like Roald Dahl continue the tradition, and if ever you want to read a good story about evil dominatrix and the non-consensual humiliation of a young girl, look no further than his book Mathilda. All of these were written FOR CHILDREN and are considered part of growing up in households where "classical educations" are considered a thing of value.

Read the whole essay here:

Put Another Slave On The Fire

I could also have mentioned Disney stories (and some people seriously think they're 'evil' for this very reason) where themes are often about children who witness their parents being killed and are then raised by 'gentle, caring' wolves, bears, rattlesnakes, or whatever. *lol*

And as for pedo stories, how is it that Lolita is considered 'classic literature' but when anybody else writes about sex with minors it's collectively dismissed as porn, or worse? I personally don't believe the current state of society's pathological aversion to the subject does anything to address the subject of child abuse properly. To me, it's no different than primitive societies accusing their enemies of being 'cannibals' simply because that was the most disgusting label they could think of to place on them.

For the record, I don't enjoy reading or writing stories that have characters in them that aren't as old as my favorite pair of shoes, which are 25 or so years old and getting older every year

[crickette]

I totally agree Mrs. Millie Moo (hope I spelled that right)and thanks to you I will never be able to look at a turkey without lmao again. I thank you !

I'm amazed this 'thread' has gone for so long. There are many things out There that are as bad, if not worse than snuff, that we read in our Daily Tabloids.

Fiction is imagination, FACT is fact. Okay, there are many murders comitted with imagination. In fact, one of my favourites of all time has got to be Sweeny Todd.
Maybe some of you haven't heard of Mr.& Mrs. Sweeny Todd, Barber's & Famous meat pies. ... Well, apart from how single, no ties men got haircuts there cheap on thursdays and a quick slit of the throat with Mr.Todd's razor and the drop down into the cellar below, thru' a trapdoor in the chair. Ingenious.
How Mrs.Todd used to drag the bodies to the hanging area. A badly in need of hygene place where she hung the 'meat' to drain of blood and made it into delicious 'Black puddings' [Google-it.] which reminds me, we do that with our sows placenta. But that is traditional.
And then Mrs.Todd worked her human hair socks off to get out pie after pie of various cuts of the human torso.

Being as i love my cooking, if only my Hubby was a Barber, we could open up 'Hackers Barbers. Hairdressor to the non-newsworthy' and 'Hackers Olde English Pye Shoppe' ... anyway,

I digress. Totally agree with Kelly. What about a thread on Cooking meat? Would anyone be interested in more unusual methods? All mammals are available as well as fish, ofcourse.

[agp_millie]

I totally agree Mrs. Millie Moo (hope I spelled that right)and thanks to you I will never be able to look at a turkey without lmao again. I thank you !

Dear Crickette,
Aren't you the 'crickette' that was hanged last Season at Lord Tuckerbelly's Gourmet Party?
No, guess you couldn't be.

Thanks for agreeing. Perhaps we can start a Discussion about .... errrrrmm.. What would YOU suggest. (smile)

xxx

[Bunk]

Well, hello all. This topic struck a chord with me enough to inspire me to register. Let me say that first off, I fall on the side of anti-censorship.

What I appreciate about this site, is that the stories are thoroughly rated, so that I can avoid subject matter that I personally don't find erotic. Snuff however is a tricky issue.

I've seen numerous attempts to define it in this thread, and its tough to say there is a consensus. Personally, what I consider snuff completely kills (heh)any sort of erotic moment for me when I encounter it in a story. It really sucks for me when something thats borderline shows up in a story that didn't have a snuff tag.

I'll explain - I was reading a story here recently that had a pretty harsh basis. Very NC and rough. It did not however have a snuff tag. I'm borderline on torture stories - but as long as they don't get in to outright mutilation, they don't bother me. This story had some rough stuff, but it was well written and I was enjoying it. Then out of the blue - in the middle of a paragraph:

(Feel free to skip the next paragraph if you really dislike snuff)






A bit part character is discribed as being punished by having shit put in her cunt, which was sown shut. The she was left to rot until she begged to die and then was crucified.







Typing that paragraph actually physically affected me. Not in a sexual way either. It just doesn't "do it" for me, and it hurt that I stumbled accross it by accident.

Please don't tell me I didn't have to read it - I can read a paragraph as short as the one I typed above in a glance, and it wasn't much longer than that in the story. I'm not putting anyone down for liking that - whatever floats yer boat - but I do wish authors would be a little more explicit in the description of thier stories if they are going to include content of that, well, icky a nature.

The story was likely labeled "extreme" but unfortunately, that label is even less defined than snuff, and many stories I have seen here labeled as extreme barely made me bat an eyelid.

Ok, nuff said, that's my rant. Thanks for listening.

Bunk.

[agp_millie]

that paragraph actually physically affected me. Not in a sexual way either. It just doesn't "do it" for me, and it hurt that I stumbled accross it by accident.

Dear Bunk,
Yes, that was nasty & putrid, literally. And being an avid Net. 'nc' story reader, i've read some quite nasty things. To me, many *nasties* can be very erotic, but having her stuffed and sewn up in such a manner is VERY nasty.
I guess if the word 'snuff' is included with all the other abbrv. signifying what to expect in the story, then you have an interest in some forms of snuff and when reaching an area that is abhorrent to you, you would simply delete from your files/pc. But somewhere thaere are a lot of guys and women too, that hate our sex and it's their way of showing their contempt for the gentle sex (smile)

One of my fave pastimes, is Fantasy cyber and over time, i have been 'involved' in aome amazingly nasty scenes. But, personally, i draw the line at scat and whipping. But i do enjoy cooking/being cooked, in cyber, by a skiiled cook or using a willing female (prefered) to roast or BBQ. (smile) As one does.
However, i'll settle for a good flushing out of the 'meat' and use my culinary skills to com plete a good 'snuff' scene.

So it's each to their own. Certainly, with appropriate warnings and ratings, any story should be available somewhere.

**** WARNING **** tHE PICTURES BELOW REPRESENT 'SNUFF' AND MAY AFFECT MALES AS BAD AS FEMALES, IF VIEWED. (smile)

[Ranai]

Nope, colin. Read the thread. This is about fiction. Not about real murder.
:error: :usehead:

[sheilagirl]

Hello,
I would like to say that the snuff category in stories should be removed... It hurts me a lot, and I don't understand why it is permitted to speak about that stuff on this site... It is going too far...
Regards
Hairdresser

The snuff category is there to inform you. If you don't like snuff, you don't have to read it! Stop trying to use your personal likes and dislikes to impose censorship on other people's work. And let's not forget this is FANTASY, not real. Jeeez, some people!!

sheila

[Mrlover]

I personally would like them removed from the site, because I honestly can't see how killing women can seem erotic. And it seems a little extreme to me even in BDSM terms.

I agree i think its disgusting and can be no justification for it. People who "get off" on killing have some very serious issues

[submissivewife]

I agree i think its disgusting and can be no justification for it. People who "get off" on killing have some very serious issues

I agree! Killing is not a sexual act.

[H Dean]

Those who do not like the snuff category could choose to show their feelings by no longer coming to this site for their erotic pleasures. That makes it simple.

Incidentally, should there be a future refusal to allow any genre of story on this site it does not constitute true censorship as it does not prevent the publication or creation of said works.