How to give the BEST blow job?

[Nacht]

And there is always, for those who can't do the breath play, try holding a switchblade to that pretty throat while you use it.

I would recommend a spyderco Endura or Delica trainer blade. The lock on those won't break and the blade isn't sharp and has no tip on it, but it works psychologically to a similar effect (especially since you can "flick" it out very easily).

If it doesn't quite feel sharp enough a common trick is to freeze it first.

[AndrewBlack]

I'd missed the bit in this thread about the blowjob from 'High Heeled Hell' where the woman is being garotted while giving head, my god that was such a turn on for me man! Don't know if i'd try it in real life, might get a bit carried away

A great blowjob for me requires above all else enthusiasm on the part of the girl. I love to look down and see her really going for it and getting into it, that's a massive turn on. From a technical point of view I like to feel her mouth along my entire length, I don't mean that she totally swallow me but I do mean that I like to feel her on every part of me that's in her, so she keep her lips and cheeks firmly on me. I like a position where I can dictate the pace and depth and essentially fuck her mouth as well, this is pretty much the same as the above. Most of all I like to fuck her mouth while 69ing, seeing her get turned on, turns me on.

I found having a whip nearby helps getting a good blowjob too

[jaeangel]

My husband (I don't tell him this, of course, it would be a terrible blow to his notoriously fragile male ego) has a rather...small penis. It measures about five inches erect. So with me the problem hasn't been deepthroating, it's been how to create enough pleasure all along the amount of shaft I do have to get him to cum.
I usually start with a good ball-licking. I can suck both his balls into my mouth at the same time, and he loves it when I roll the testicles inside his sac with my tongue while holding the whole thing inside my mouth. When I let them go the next thing i do is lick his anus (he always washes with soap and water before we have sex, by the way) and then his perineum, the tender skin from his anus all the way to his balls. Once I have him moaning from that, I lick in a straight line all the way from his anus to the frenulum (the sensitive skin just behind and under the head). I'll use just the tip of my tongue for a light sensation, then use the broad flat of my tongue to almost push his balls up into his body. The contrast between feather-light touches and firm swipes gets him going. It's also a really good way to get his precum out (for some reason I don't mind the taste of precum, although I don't like swallowing regular cum).
Then I take the tip of my tongue and swirl it around the head of his cock, which can be tricky sometimes, if I set myself some kind of no-hands rule before we start. Hubby is completely vanilla, and has no idea why I would want my hands cuffed behind me when I'm giving him a BJ, but he's willing to go with it as long as it means he gets to cum. Most of the time I don't bother with the cuffs, I just tell myself 'no hands' and that works for me. Mental handcuffs, so to speak.
Annyway, I pull my lips down to cover my teeth and then take the head of his cock between my lips like that. Then I swirl my tongue around the head of his cock, again using both the tip and the broad side to alternate the pressure and feel. Tastebuds are more concentrated around the tip, so the tip feels better, with more bumps for friction. Then, and only then, do I take his cock in my mouth.
I wrap my upper lips and the corners of my lips around his cock; I keep my tongue extended down the length of his shaft, and press my lip to the underside of my tongue, with my teeth still tucked inside my lip to keep from nicking him by accident. I've even, once, placed a wad of gum against my back teeth on either side and up and down, to keep him from feeling them when I take him in. He hates feeling the hardness of my back teeth on his head. He hates feeling anything hard against Mr. Happy period.
Once I've done that, I start moving my head up and down his shaft, while simultaneously flicking my tongue in and out of my mouth. The flat upper side of my tongue swipes the underside of his shaft, and when I withdraw, and because his cock is filling my mouth, my tongue kinda has to curl up to fit in there, and the tip brushes up against his frenulum again. I'll do this in a straight up-and-down motion for a few strokes, then, the third or fourth time, I'll turn my head a little to the left or right (ten o'clock or two o'clock) as I go up, then turn the other way as I go back up. The side-to side motion does a lot for his end of the sensation, though I have to be careful and keep my eyes closed, because I get disoriented if they're open and I turn my head without having my glasses on to focus my vision. In fact my eyes are usually closed for the whole thing. Sex too; glasses get fogged up when we're going at it, and i found it easier to just take them off and keep my eyes closed. Most of the time he's looking through his Penthouse magazines while we do this, so he doesn't really notice whether my eyes are open or not.
I'll retract my tongue into my mouth and curl the edges of my tongue up to cradle his cock, and do this in an up and down motion for a while, then I'll wrap my lips around his cock and suck on him like a lollipop. I have to be careful not to suck too hard; the intense pulling gave him an ache once and he asked me not to suck so hard. Usually at this stage the magazine goes down and his eyes close, and he comes after that.
I give him a blowjob twice a week, full blowjobs. The rest of the time, I start by giving him a blowjob and finish up riding him. This is mostly because with his small size, my pussy doesn't clamp as tightly on Mr. Happy as she used to before I had two babies. As he puts it, I'm all stretched out now, and it doesn't feel the same. I've suggested he try it in my butt, but he hasn't been receptive to the idea, and I won't make him try something he's not willing to do.
I don't know if all of this helps anybody out there...

[whippedcream]

Someone suggested being on your knees in front of him, but I've always found it impossible. Try having him lie on his back, and you kneel next to him or over him (almost like a 69 position, but not quite because you're on your knees and your cooch isn't in his face). Of course, it probably depends how he's shaped or curved or whatever, but I've always found that that way works. Swallowing it down really works, but it's difficult to go in and out and in and out that way, because eventually the gag reflex does kick in. If your man really wants to hold the back of your head and face-fuck you, you can take your time and get it all the way in yourself, swallow it down, and then let him go to town without ever pulling himself all the way from your throat. The only problem with this method is it's only good for one lungful of air at a time...but the breath aspect can sometimes be fun.

[masterkurt]

in ten years of relationship, caroline has become an excellent cocksucker. I required that she should learn from each master she was used by, the cocksucking techniques he liked most, so she learned a lot of tricks.

She learned deep throating with a lot of experiments on me, than I had her trying it even on more enodwed males .... Helen had her succeeding in deepthroating her husband Mark, applying some incentive to her footsoles (cigarette burns)....

There are a couple of tricks she was very good at: first of all licking the balls while deepthroating .... she was able to sneak the tongue out when the shaft of a cock was completely inside her throat and tried to lick the balls ... it was a great show.

second nice trick, was alternating the blowjob with the licking of a fruit-ice ... it was very pleasnat to feel the chilled mouth and tongue around the cock.

The last variation I would like to quote was having her giving head after having had her running (naked of course and with tied hands) around for a good while ..... it was very nice to have her trying to make a good blowjob while panting heavily ....

I add a picture of n. 2

[Aquilegia]

Take his cock as deep into your mouth as you can. Start to move up and down the shaft very slowly. As you move up and down, with your lips firm on his shaft, draw little figures of eight with your nose. Make them about three or four inches across. After a few strokes reverse the direction of the figure eights. Swirl the tip with your tongue whenever you can reach it.
This drives my master wild!

He also like me to open my mouth slightly and breath in on the upstroke, this cools his cock. Then I breath out on the downstroke, and warm it back up again!

[Mobius]

It is amazing that the BJ has become so comon it is about the same level as the hand shake. Back in the day it was petting maybe getting to first or second base. you might touch 3rd base but that was rare.

No some 30 years later I hear girls talking about giving BJ's at the end of the date just to be rid of the "loser" so she does not have to give it up. These 15/16 year old girls talk about it as if it is nothing. I have had girls on the bus that are talking about anal play. So they can keep there verginity intact. Yes it is nice that is short bus I can hear all. I dare not make any comment on any of it. "Tonto get in heap big truble". And Yes I am sopose to write them up for such talk. But it is kind of enlightining to hear what they think is normal behavor, versus what was normal behavor back in my day (late 70's).

Oh and the most sensitive part of the dick, is just under the base of the crown. Almost like a male clitoris. you tickle that and I will follow you any were.

And for the deep throating thing. Other than sword swollowers I think it is a big Myth. Even in porn flicks I see the starlets choking and gaging. And these are realy big dicks 12-14 inches. Sorry I think for the most woman it is a fable that they can deep throat. Right up there with the 12 in cock that every man has.

[NaturalSub]

Okay, this is going to sound as if I am bragging, but.... I am a sword swallower, I many other things as well, I eat fire, I walk on glass, I do magic, I put things up my nose and bring them out of my mouth and I hammer 6" nails up my nose. None of this has anything to do with BDSM, I just wanted to give you an idea of my background when it comes to this stuff. The human body is a wonderful thing, and I have found ways that things I do on stage can be converted to things I do in the bedroom!

Out of all the things I do, I find sword swallowing the hardest, mainly because of that wretched thing called the gag reflex. The first time I put anything up my nose to come down my throat and out of my mouth, I spewed up, and considering I was in the middle of a resturant at the time, it wasn't pretty (long story, but thats what bored magicians do!). However, after I got used to the tickly feeling, I still gag a little, but I didn;t puke, it's a good starting point!

I asked for advice on controlling my gag reflex, with the origional intention of being able to do the nose/mouth thing without the risk of spewing, this later led to me starting sword swallowing, which later led to my Master being happy that he didn;t need to force me to deep throat him, because I was perfectly willing to do so anyway!

The most important thing is the angle! Which ever position you are in, to truely deep throat, your head needs to be at a 90 degree angle to your neck, this allows the greatest space, and the easiest straight entry, because the throat curves, when you hit the back of it with anything, let alone a hard cock being shoved into it, you will gag, it's a reflex that you just can't get away from.

The next thing to do is just practice. Every morning, and I still do this, when I have my shower, I take my tooth brush with me. I put my head at the right angle and put my tooth brush in as far as I can go, for a while, this is gonna make you gag, however, you get over it,and your body gets used to the feeling and it just sort of stops.

There is no great secret to it. It truely does just take practice!

[spike]

Long ago I had a wife who did not like to even say, ‘suck’. She never learned how to do it and in eleven years of marriage I never came from a blowjob. Some time later, mid 90s, there was someone who would sub for me at times and I made sure to make up for lost time in this field.

I am uncircumcised with a loose foreskin that often turns inside out and back with each stroke in normal sex. She tried to do that with her mouth but it didn’t work for me. The best sensation came if she used her hand to retract my foreskin then went at the corona (the rim of the head), the frenum (fold of skin linking foreskin to base of the head), and the meatus (the hole in the end – penile anatomy lesson FREE! ) with her tongue-tip rhythmically and relentlessly. Her hand remained near the base to stimulate the part stroked by the labia during straight sex and to press quite hard about midway between scrotum and anus at the moment of climax.

Deep throat, she had serious psychology about and I didn’t mess with the mafia.

But, contrary to:

While he's full in my mouth, I like to make eye contact and "smile" (well as best as possible with a mouth full of cock LOL) with an impish look in my eyes.

(back in May, I know, but I just got here), the best psychological effect for me came from making her blow me when crying. The picture I attach isn’t her and I am unsure of its provenance but it was one of the very first I downloaded and kept when I had an internet connection. It still does something for me.

Spike

[mythicat]

My personal experience...and we won't talk about how much that might be ...is that every guy is different. Or at least they fall into various groupings. A prime example of this is teeth...some guys absolutely hate &/or fear it, some like gentle scraping, and I've even known one who liked fairly aggressive chewing (not to break the skin tho, just firm pressure without any sliding around to cause tearing). A lot depends on their anatomy and psychology. And congrats to you less well-endowed guys, cus you're a LOT easier to blow than your horse-hung counterparts. Can do a lot more tricks when your mouth isn't completely stretched to capacity!

As for breath control, the trick is to time your breathing to when he's pulling back. As long as he's moving in and out for friction there will be a time when your throat is clear, you just have to be ready to take advantage of it. Breath restriction enhances orgasm anyway, so try to go with it. *eg*

privatedesire, new master was right...some guys just don't cum from a blow job and even the ones that do won't always. Heck, I couldn't cum from oral for years either. Even today I have to find the right headspace...the sensation is just too subtle, too much like tickling, for my liking. *shrug* But one very determined ex-boyfriend got me over it eventually (bless his heart ) and expanded my horizons. So perhaps for those guys it's just a matter of "training" the response too. And if the guy still has his foreskin, try pulling it back while you go at him. And also try different positions...cus sometimes a guy will get into it more if he towers over you with you on your knees and his fist wound tightly in your hair (purrrrr), but sometimes he can't fully relax and enjoy it if he's standing because it distracts him trying not to fall over when his knees go weak! lol

Driveslikeagirl...there are a lot of men out there who don't care if you swallow or not, in fact I'd say most either don't care at all or only have a preference for swallowing but will certainly not turn ya down over it. And I've run across a couple who do think it's gross. As for ball play, it's a lot like breast play for women...most like it, some a whole lot, some not at all.


And I can't find who posted it, but someone mentioned a guy who liked to slap his penis across her face. My husband loves to do that! I've always found it a little funny myself (humorous funny). Only guy I've ever been with that does it; but I've seen it once or twice in porn, so I guess it's not too isolated of a phenomenon. And if your guy did it too, then I guess that makes mine ever so (very) slightly less weird than I thought he was an hour ago.

Now to go try that raspberries trick on him...Thanks redEva!

[redEva]

...Now to go try that raspberries trick on him...Thanks redEva!

*grinning* how sweet was it?

[mythicat]

I fed him a big ol' yummy dinner when he got home and now he ain't good for nuthin. Some thanks that is!

I'll have to get back to ya on it.

[duktig flicka]

Wow, Allyslittleone, just wow. I am extremely impressed and jealous. You almost make me long for a Y chromosome. I am, however, most inspired.

[mythicat]

*grinning* how sweet was it?

I tried it and asked how it was.
He reported "a little painful."
So of course I then asked, "But did you like it?" :[
His reply was a hesitant/grudging, "a little."
So I tried it again, this time a bit softer.
He said it still hurt, and when asked did not want me to keep doing it.

His bouncy bits are not overly sensitive at all. I wonder if I'm doing it right? Or in the right place? I was directly on a testis...

[spike]

sometimes a guy will get into it more if he towers over you with you on your knees and his fist wound tightly in your hair (purrrrr), but sometimes he can't fully relax and enjoy it if he's standing because it distracts him trying not to fall over when his knees go weak! lol

You said it mythicat! When those knees start going it's too late to keep your dignity. The handful of hair is sufficent domination. A guy should sit down. Can't the person in charge be comfortable?

Spike

[mythicat]

You said it mythicat! When those knees start going it's too late to keep your dignity. The handful of hair is sufficent domination. A guy should sit down. Can't the person in charge be comfortable?
Spike

But...but...the pirate in my fantasy wasn't sitting! Now put the eye patch back on and get off your duff! lol


I agree that the one in charge should be however they're most comfortable (at least usually). I would much rather my partner be able to relax than take forEVER to cum. Because that's just going to wind up making me uncomfortable. lol

You have to admit tho...a guy sprawled out in his easy chair isn't as visually intimidating.

[spike]

But...but...the pirate in my fantasy wasn't sitting! Now put the eye patch back on and get off your duff! lol

It's not that kind of Spike.

You have to admit tho...a guy sprawled out in his easy chair isn't as visually intimidating.

It depends what you most recently remember him doing to you. Intimidation first. Blowjob to follow. Always the best plan. And keep the crop somewhere very handy in case she starts blowing raspberries!

Spike

[Curtis]

Let's see... deepthroat is unneccessary, but you should be able to get half of it in; very, very, very wet; alternating licking with sucking (alternating more quickly as you near the climax); use one hand to grip the bottom half, and keep the skin pulled taut at all times; with the other hand, keep tension on my scrotum (your whole hand will fit between my balls and my body); licking and sucking my balls would be a winner, but not near the climax (unless you were trying to draw things out); eye contact (though not every second) and obvious enthusiasm are hugely important; swallowing isn't neccessary in a casual relationship, but makes a guy who already is serious about you feel all warm and protective (I think it's an act of submission); if your knees can stand it (try a pillow), kneeling in front of me, topless and with conveniently long hair to hold is just icing on the cake (while you're kneeling like that, you can rub my wet cock over your neck and breasts, if you want to slow things down -- and the feeling of your nipples against my thighs...); and rubbing my perinium in time to the contractions when I cum wraps thing up nicely, though it would certainly require lots of practice to get the timing down.

Thank you for starting this thread, Eva!

[redEva]

Thank you for starting this thread, Eva!

hehe , you most welcome , and thank you for picturesque description

[Eraser]

ohh goodie, next to breat bondage my favorite topic!

well I don't have a "technique" and my prefrance varies greatly by the intensity of the evening or on the other then of the spectrum how calm my days been. If's I've had a really long stressful day, most often not in a throat raping face fucking pounding BJ mood. Nice slow even steady. What RedEva said about using your skin (breast nipples etc) works very well espcaiily if your going for a more pleasent or oh dare I say "romantic"? BJ. But then again if it was a pissy day or one of my employee's pissed me off yea it may be a throat pounder.

One thing I greatly enjoy is I love scraping teeth, forget folding those lips I want to feel those pearlly whites! One other technique that work extremely well if you can't deepthroat (more on this topic in a sec) is drool it up girls, I know its reflex not to but let it go and don't just use your hand to hold, add it to the motion it, if you can get your timing down and drool enough, the sensation is very very simular to being deepthroated. The favorite technique my girl uses is she take her hand off or down to 1-2 fingers on her down stroke and adds the rest of her hand on the up stroke. The pressure has to be matched to the mount of tongue pressure as well.

Now on the deepthroat topic yet again. First off I am not an "average" size I'm not gonna sound like a lame braggert or wanna be and spout off numbers, so lets just say above average. Let me say I've had it done more then once it CAN be done.

as a second form of proofm I'm actually going to point to a porn:


this isn't some stupid trick of the camera or faking or anything. I know cause I was there holding the camera

[jaeangel]

... and rubbing my perinium in time to the contractions when I cum wraps thing up nicely, though it would certainly require lots of practice to get the timing down.

Hey, you're right, I just tried this (two minutes ago) on my hubby and he came like there ain't no tomorrow!! Thanks for the tip!!!

[redEva]

*beaming with pride* t’is my baby (this thread) and is growing so nicely, and even giving back to society! You see!

Joke aside – good advices, I’m glad they are getting use!

On the other note – impressive swallowing on some of those pics – but that dark haired one – did not seem to happy having full throat!

What I really like to see is girl taking it deep and seeing her throat gets thick with the rod. *drooling*

[Prpackaged]

:-[

OK! Yeah, I know – it is not pure BDSM, but still, one of the never ending mysteries ( for me at least ). Not that anyone complained so far (not that I would admit even if they had ) but… apart from the all around fantasy of deep throating (and that one too – if someone could enlighten me – how exactly do you manage to do it for extended period of time without evacuating last few meals?! ) and some other imaginary always-in-the-story described actions - what is in your experience really really cool, and details please – maybe we can learn something.

And… just by-the-way did you ever tried blowing strong raspberries on His balls? :[

Got a chance to read all the other posts first. My two cents on this topic is that deep throat is not that necessary. Hitting the places where the nerve endings reside has the greatest affect.

For deep throating: The sub who swallowed swords has the right idea. Practice practice practice. I would recommend starting with a banana. It has the right shape and is also stiff. Should it go into places where is should not be (causes a gag response), it will not be so stiff and hard that it will cause damage.

The gag reflex is a safe guard to protect you from having foreign substances enter the lungs. Nothing goes in if everything is going out. The banana can be slowly pushed down the throat yet removed when the gag response start or if you suddenly find a need to breathe :yuck: With practice the throat can become accustomed to having something like a banana or other similar item placed in the immediate area.

As a male, I like the idea of having a sub paying such close attenting to that area. The Crown has the most nerve ending and thus can give the greatest response. The perineum is another excellent place to stroke. Consider that this area is used by most animals to induce responses, mostly research from mothers cleaning their newborn. Whether it goes all the way down or not does not increase my responses. Whether the sub is paying attention and playing appropriately gains a greater positive response. Best BJ is one that comes from both partners wanting and enjoying.

[Kaori-san]

Oh yeah, someone (i forget who) mentioned pop rocks to me once, they sound kinda cool, sadly, we don't have them over here.
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We may not have poprocks over here, but we do have Sparx Magic Popping Candy, which is not quite as good but it does change colour

[Spitman]

I found using my mouth and hand works the best, since I can't deep throat either... yet...

I start by just using my mouth, taking of much of him in as I can, while my hand fondles his balls and perinium. Then I start to slide my hand over his cock, my hand in the shape of an "O." When my hand slides down, I slip my mouth over the head and give it a quick swirl, then bring my hand back over the top. As I bring my hand up, I twist it, which is what he says drives him wild. With my free hand, I caress his anus (he has yet to let my finger in, even though we both think he would like it, he's a little homophobic), so I just lightly caress the opening, which drives him crazy as well. I keep pumping, gradually increasing, and as he cums, I pump my hand as hard as I can over his shaft.

Kelli, everything you have described fits in with the very best I have experienced. Your partner is a very lucky man!

There is one suggestion I can make that is not in your description, although you might be doing it anyway! One very sensitive area is the groove on either side between the scrotum and the anus. With your fingers in a vee, reach underneath from behind, and run your parted fingers in very lightly on both sides of the groove simultaneously. Talk about going from hard to solid rock! The feel of a woman's fingers doing that is indescribable, and combined with the rest of what you are doing with your mouth, I'm sure it will be fantastic.

There's one general comment I would make to all of you women who want to make a big impression on us men. Perhaps the most common mistake a woman makes is to presume that ejaculation = male orgasm. Not so. As I'm sure you all know, you can cause a man to ejaculate very quickly with all kinds of techniques, but there is very little, if any pleasure involved. In fact, there are two different processes going on and they happen at very different speeds. If you get it wrong, the ejaculation occurs long before he is anywhere near a real orgasm.

As many people have said in here many times, the most erogenous zone is the mind. I would add that the second most erogenous zone a man has is a woman, the third is anywhere except where you think it is, and the fourth is exactly where you think it is. For a man to achieve maximum pleasure there needs to be a slow buildup, so his mind becomes focused on all those visual, tactile and other erotic sensations. During this buildup remember the order of those erogenous zones. He needs to be in the mood, then he needs to be able to touch and feel you, then he needs to feel your touch, arousing his whole body, focusing his mind so that he is fully aroused and ready and desperately wanting you to touch him in those very obvious places. Use techniques like those described by Kelli but take your time, let him stay hard for a while while he feels the intense sensations that he can only enjoy in that state of arousal, and then, when you sense that he is ready, tip him over the edge and you will get an ejaculation that fully justifies being described as a male orgasm. Those special sensations of pleasure come from all parts of the genitalia, especially the most sensitive areas like around and beneath the scrotum.

Some men may like it when you close your thumb and forefinger around his ball sack and pull his balls gently away from the body while you do all those wonderful things with your mouth.

[JohnZ]

some times a picture is worth a 1,000 words.


But to me - I need to fee the woman's breasts between my thighs and pushed up at my balls -- that is a sensual feeling for me.

I have only cum once from receiving head. My wife thinks that my cock might not be as sensative as most men. Is there a possibility that when I was having my cercumsision when I was a boy -that some nerve endings were cut? I have no problem keeping my erection - but it takes me being "inside" to have me cum.

My own thoughts on this is that it might be a control thing with me. I feel like when I am receiving head - I am the one receiving - not doing - and by not "doing" I am not in control -- as a Dom - I like to be in control.

anyway - those are some of my thoughts.

John

[learningtopleez]

I have only cum once from receiving head. My wife thinks that my cock might not be as sensative as most men. Is there a possibility that when I was having my cercumsision when I was a boy -that some nerve endings were cut? I have no problem keeping my erection - but it takes me being "inside" to have me cum.

My own thoughts on this is that it might be a control thing with me. I feel like when I am receiving head - I am the one receiving - not doing - and by not "doing" I am not in control -- as a Dom - I like to be in control.

John

John...I am not positive about the nerve endings being cut during circumcision, but it makes sense. I have read and heard that men w/o circumcisions have more feeling...so I guess it is possible.

As for never having cum but once from receiving head....Max was sort of like that. The first time I gave him a bj....nothing...nada...so I'm thinking to myself....well, I suck at this and not in a good way! But he explained that it is very difficult for him to cum while getting a bj. But on my next visit, he had abstained from masturbating for about three days...plus he gave me incentive...I couldn't cum until I made him cum! Btw...he told me this after he already had me squirming from oral! So I proceeded to give him the best bj I had ever given. Ya know how sometimes...the rhythm of your hands and your mouth just come together perfectly?? Well the ladies probably get this! So anyway....it worked! And I got two rewards that day!

I am sure that you may have already tried this...but I thought I would throw in my 2 cents!

[Nikita]

Posted by JohnZ: My own thoughts on this is that it might be a control thing with me. I feel like when I am receiving head - I am the one receiving - not doing - and by not "doing" I am not in control -- as a Dom - I like to be in control.

Not that the title of this post has anything to do with the subject, butt, it triggered the thought of circular thinking. John, both your statements point to personal 'head games'. (That phrase wasn't intentional, but hey, it worked out that way. )

And that is what orgasm is anyway, a head game. Women have that same inner dialogue that eventually leads them to give up or die trying to cum. But their dialogue runs along the lines of "if I enjoy this, he'll think I'm a slut" or the usual "good girls don't cum from oral sex." Most of the soccer moms I know look like they gave up. I NEVER give up... and glad I still don't!

(Anyway, thought I'd give you a little insight into thinking of women in the Bible Belt)

I have no problem keeping my erection - but it takes me being "inside" to have me cum.

See! It is a head game with yourself. Personally, I don't believe in your theory of 'not being in control,' as a possible reason for not reaching orgasm with a bj. The silent way you do orgasm has to do with your mind.

I'm with LTP, whose 2 cents is worth 4 bits, then 6 bits, and finally, a whole dollar. She wisely hinted that a little abstention accompanied frustration will quickly cure you of any hesitancy about cumming from a bj on that special person's lips.

Nikita

[JohnZ]

I'm with LTP, whose 2 cents is worth 4 bits, then 6 bits, and finally, a whole dollar. She wisely hinted that a little abstention accompanied frustration will quickly cure you of any hesitancy about cumming from a bj on that special person's lips.

Nikita

Well I will agree that it is most likely a "head game" - it is all in my head (though do not discount the control thing - since that is a head game in itself - for who is ever in control really?)

As for the abstention - that theory has been tested to no avail. -- But I will say - the one time that I did come from a BJ - it was from my lovely wife, when she was determined to make me cum. She kept at it -- to take me over the threshold. Unfortuantly I get to the point normally- but do not crest. (so it can be done, I just have not have had the patient partner, though my wife's jaw did hurt from the time she spent on me that time, and has not rallied that kind of desire again - I guess it was something to check off her list - and then - not worry about it any more.)

Thanks for the feedback -

John

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I have a spare moment or two so I thought I'd add my thoughts to this discussion, trying to address various points I've picked up in the other threads.

First-up, on the subject of deepthroating. I agree that for men it is not the be-all and end-all of blow job sensations - it is good, but it is not the best that can be done. However, as we all know, the mind is the main erogenous zone and I can't held but be turned on by the knowledge that a girl is close to choking on my cock which is filling her mouth.

Jaeangel - five inches isn't that small - I imagine it's still hard to get it all in. Between the regular blow-jobs, the handcuffs for the purpose, and your offer of anal, you get high marks from me!

Anyway, mouth plus hand covering the rest of the shaft is a good way to go, combined movement of the two. It is quite rare that I come from only contact with her mouth - I need the firm grip of a hand as well to finish me off, might just be me though! However, if I'm being dom and go for a long face-fucking, that can turn me on enough to do the trick.

Continuing with the all-important-mind theme, there are two accompaniments to a blow-job that really do it for me (especially when I'm sub and tied up). One is teasing; tempting me with the promise of a blow job at first, but then making me wait, and beginning slowly. The other is facesitting - with or without blindfold and/or gag, the smell (and perhaps sight and taste) of a woman that I cannot escape from is all the extra arousal I could ever need. Do the other guys agree on the last point, or am I isolated in that view?