I believe my sub borders on masochism, however, he won't tell me. I have noticed that he does not wince when the whippings get more intense so what I have done to punish him is to not start out easy and work up to a flogging but go straight to the heavy artillery and occassionally direct the blows to a more sensitive place. I know he does not like not being able to reach the sub zone. When he begs forgiveness is when I will sooth the welts and start him over again for his and my pleasures. I in no way ever draw blood. That is one of my hard limits.