Well Adam, outside of the BDSM community nobody would ever consider me to be submissive, and apparently I scare most of the men I work with.

And a word of encouragement, next September I will be going to the wedding of a couple how met on an online board. The topic under discussion was 'nice guys'. They both took the stance which has been taken here, although without the BDSM theme. That was nearly five years ago, and the rest of story they will, I am sure, spend their lifetimes writing.

I agree with what cookiecat and Warbaby have said, you seem a lovely person, do get involved here, and I would be amazed if you don't find someone as special as you are knocking on your door.

cariad