Quote Originally Posted by ElectricBadger View Post
True, but be aware that science is not all there is to life.
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Quote Originally Posted by ElectricBadger View Post
Giving up all emotion, belief, and feeling for cold logic may help some things, but is ultimately against that which really makes life worthwhile.
Why does giving up all emotion follow from believing in science? I believe in science and I am a very emotional being. Emotions is not a supernatural force.

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Love is not logical or scientific.
Love is only illogical because we don't have all the variables. Love between people can be studied scientifically and that does not retract from how wonderful it is. Besides, I love reading scientific reports. So there.

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Beauty cannot be discovered by the scientific method.
Quite correct. Aestetics is one of the very few scholarly branches that do not aply the scientific method. There are many more.

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Joy isn't found in a beaker --
Depends if you're into drugs or not, isn't it.

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and our attempts to do just that have led to a lot more problems today.
You're going to have to explain that one. Most food we eat today is the result of a wide variety of scientific processes. Not starving I would call a form of "joy". Using condoms allows us to have a lot more sex than otherwise, =science at work creating "joy".

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This means that yes, we have ugliness and unhappiness too, and hate, but these things, ultimately, are worth the greater experience. I would not surrender the world to pure logic for anything.
So don't. There's no conflict. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but it sounds to me like you're making a case for the merits of ignorance? I just don't see it. Knowledge is always good, which religious people seem to agree on, or they wouldn't keep reading and analysing their books. The only difference between religious and scientific people is just that religious people have a very narrow selections of truths they are willing to accept, (aka =bad scientists).

It's not that scientists deny the possibility of the existance of god, they're just demanding some proof or even the slightest bit of circumstantial evidence before taking the leap. Doing your damndest to prove a theory as correct is bad science, just like the "Intelligent design" crowd are doing.

The universe is a magical, mystical and wonderful place even seen from the eyes of an atheist. Why fill it with obvious bullshit? Why not not gape in awe over the things that are true? The atheists world isn't a less beautiful place in any way.