there are no groups here ----and not private things other than what is stated ---there is a private forum The Cellar ----and one for Greeters and Moderators and now for Projects ---but other than the cellar they are for administrative purposes ----The Cellar is not private per sey you only have to gain a 150 posts to gain admitance --if you request admitance ---

We can have goups ---we just don't