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[Curtis]

Back in my day, there was a distinction made between "pre-op" transexuals and "post-op" transexuals. The ones in the picture jeanne posted are pre-op, and the ones Mobius describes are post-op. ("op" being short for "operation")

[cyndylu]

transsexual (tràns-sèk´sh¡-el) noun
1. One whose primary sexual identification is with the opposite sex.
2. One who has undergone a sex change.
- transsex´ual adjective
- transsex´ualism or transsex´ual´ity (-àl´î-tê) noun

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.
hope this helps cl

[j]

Back in my day, there was a distinction made between "pre-op" transexuals and "post-op" transexuals. The ones in the picture jeanne posted are pre-op, and the ones Mobius describes are post-op. ("op" being short for "operation")

Beg to differ - very seriously. Transsexuals are always pre-op - mostly feminine guys with tits and cocks. A transsexual who undergoes 'the snip' becomes a woman, period. So she may not give birth - big deal - many other women can't, either.

[Curtis]

Ooh! Now we're getting into semantics. My take on that would be that post-operative transexuals are neither gender, having neither ovaries nor testicles, but I suppose by that reasoning, castrati and women who've had hysterectomies would also be of neither gender.

I like the definition cyndylu provided for us, though I think I've also heard a different word used to describe "one whose primary sexual identification is with the opposite sex".

[silvercuffs20]

Gender to me is a 'fluid variable' which is often constructed by culture. Being a constructed concept surely it can be deconstructed... look at madonna Vogue-ing she's a straight woman acting as a homosexual man, but she can still do it. So being transgendered does confuse me, because i personally can not see as to why someone can not ignore the physical. I'm bisexual because I am attracted to personality apposed to looks, i automatically look beyond the physical. A friend of mine is currently midway between woman and man soon to be a man, and i love him for his personality not whats between the legs and to be fair he can cope very well with me when i happilily call him mike and then proceed to use the terms 'she' and 'he' all over the place because i get confused. I'd love to understand why mike feels the need to change, because although i support his decision i do not understand it. To me it just seems like cosmetic surgery, i don't like the way i look so i'll change it....

The only way i almost understand why, is the statement he made 'when i make love to a woman, i feel like a man not a woman when making love to a lady and i want my outward appearance to reflect it'.


Sorry for the way this is worded i'm trying to come across as not being ignorant or disrespectful for the way others want to live their life.
Am i still confused? yes....Willing to be educated? yes

Silvercuffs

[Barton]

From what I have always thought and learned, a trans-sexual is a person who is in the middle of transferring their sex from one to the other. This is because they really think that they are in the wrong body. Once the final surgery has been performed, they are a member of the other sex. A cross-dresser is a person who has no desire to switch sexes but who gets off on dressing up in womens clothes.

"boys will be girls and girls will be boys, it's a mixed up, jumbled up, shook up world that we live in" (The Kinks-Lola)

Barton.