Women Shall Submit

[TomOfSweden]

the bible was written by men, as a reaction (with regard to relationships with the opposite sex) to a fear of womankind. Every major religion seeks to subjugate women,

I seriously believe that the intention of the bible was to give good advice on which morals to follow. In 300 AD women where little more than property and if the Bible hadn't incorporated morals of the time nobody would have read the book(s) or become christian. I don't think it's a question of actively trying to subjugate women more than what was allready happening. For all we know it could have been progressive for it's time. A lot can happen in the subject of ethics in 1700 years.

Don't forget that the Bible was compiled by the order of Emperor Constantin. He wasn't even Christian. Not even a little bit. It's no secret that his goals with compiling the Bible was purely political. The omitted books are called the Apocrypha.

Christian morals have developed a lot. For example S:t Nicholas. Better known today as Father Christmas was famous for two things. Giving presents to the poor and burning down pagan churches. He got famous and connonized for the second act but the focus shifted as Christian ethics evolved.

Yes, religion is one of my favorite subjects.

[vampyres{ID}]

To me (Yes I am a hard core angry atheist) Being a submissive to man (or woman) is allot better, and grants more freedom then being a submissive to god or the bible, If your a submissive out of fear you have a problem and really shouldn't be doing it (because in the end Its not submission its being abused) The end line of all the people who fail to convert me is Well aren't you afraid that God will condemn you to hell? I chose to serve my master out of love, not fear, I except punishment because I like it, not because I am forced. I will not be cajoled, begged or pleaded to be a slave to a god or man that expects me to fear him/it.

If I choose tomorrow to walk away from this life, no one can stop me, or threaten me with damnation, which is allot more freedom then the bible gave me.

[cariad]

To me (Yes I am a hard core angry atheist) Being a submissive to man (or woman) is allot better, and grants more freedom then being a submissive to god or the bible, If your a submissive out of fear you have a problem and really shouldn't be doing it (because in the end Its not submission its being abused) The end line of all the people who fail to convert me is Well aren't you afraid that God will condemn you to hell? I chose to serve my master out of love, not fear, I except punishment because I like it, not because I am forced. I will not be cajoled, begged or pleaded to be a slave to a god or man that expects me to fear him/it.

If I choose tomorrow to walk away from this life, no one can stop me, or threaten me with damnation, which is allot more freedom then the bible gave me.

I choose to submit to the man whom I love as an expression of my love and desire for him. As his, I enjoy certain benefits, but that is not why I submit. In the same way I choose to submit to God because I both love and respect Him and I wish to please Him. I neither believe in God, nor submit to Him because I am frightened of who He is, the power He has over me, nor because of the benefits I would loose by not being His.

cariad