Humiliation vs. Degradation

[slavelucy]

For many, someone in a BDSM chat calling them a slut would probably be lumped into the same category as getting cat-calls from construction workers as you pass by.

LOL! i love that analogy!

i think there is a difference in what TG is talking about and what Pandora is talking about; humilation, when used properly by a good dominant (preferably someone who knows a submissive fairly well) is a fantasic tool, and i speak as someone who has unfortunetly suffered genuine humilation in real life, and it isn't anything like the same thing. i also see however what Pan means when she says that it can be a difficult thing to find one's feet with, for certain types of submissives, i believe this is probably because the very word 'humiliation' has obvious negative connotations...but then again, in most circles, so do 'submit' and 'pain'. The sort of humilation Pandora is referring to though, seems to be random, so-called dominants turning up in chat rooms or whatever and calling any subs in a 2 mile radius a 'slut' or a 'whore' (probably the same types who insist that everyone calls then 'Sir' when one doesn't even know them)...to me, that isn't humilation at all, it's just down right impolite. To be humiliated by someone you trust and whom you have some respect for (very important) is however, totally different, often precisely because you wouldn't 'take it' off anyone and there's a part of you that finds it slightly difficult.

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