Aphrodisiac?

[Finding_Fantasy]

Merged thread A "Good" sub Question with Aphrodisiac

FF

[juzam]

I am a bottom, rather than a submissive anyway, but I am hurt by the idea that by being feisty I am being manipulative and giving subs a bad name. For me the excitement comes from having control over myself to be able to take punishment or tortures beyond what I initially thought were possible. I see being feisty as a challenge to a dominant to break me whilst I am trying to keep my composure. Obviously fighting a dominant and trying to stop them doing as they will is a completely different matter and shows a lack of respect for the person in charge of the scene. I just like being able to answer "that hurt didn't it" with "no, is that all you've got" fully aware that no it isn't and that more is coming my way ........... This said I am not a proper submissive and BDSM is a fun game to play rather than a lifestyle choice, so will probably be flamed, but I felt like I should throw my 2c into the ring.

[Dslave]

I am a bottom, rather than a submissive anyway, but I am hurt by the idea that by being feisty I am being manipulative and giving subs a bad name. For me the excitement comes from having control over myself to be able to take punishment or tortures beyond what I initially thought were possible. I see being feisty as a challenge to a dominant to break me whilst I am trying to keep my composure. Obviously fighting a dominant and trying to stop them doing as they will is a completely different matter and shows a lack of respect for the person in charge of the scene. I just like being able to answer "that hurt didn't it" with "no, is that all you've got" fully aware that no it isn't and that more is coming my way ........... This said I am not a proper submissive and BDSM is a fun game to play rather than a lifestyle choice, so will probably be flamed, but I felt like I should throw my 2c into the ring.

First off, this isn't meant to "flame" you. As I said, you can still be fiesty and a sub (at least, in my book) but I just believe when someone that calls themselves a "submissive" that isn't willing to "submit" is sort of a contradiction and that is where I personally draw the defining line. From what you describe, you actually seem to be more of a masochist than anything. I should know, I am one. lol