Branding

[le forgeron]

I have heard from some sources that the type of burn a branding causes is not even painful, as the brand needs to be so hot that the nerve endings will actually vaporize on contact. Is this true?

And you think your skin/body won't swell after ?
If it's hot enough to vaporize skin, does it stop when reaching the bones ?

There is hot branding and cold branding. If your research does not find out about Carbonic Ice and Liquid Nitrogen, you did not search enough. And you're in danger, IMHO.

If not, I would also like to find out what are the most painful places for such a procedure, as I would like to offer my sweetheart the gift of a truly extreme experience.

Ok, what about a wedding-tattoo ?
what's your feelings ?

What if the most painful place is also the preferred place of your SO, and it ends up totally destroyed/devastated/ugliest on earth and beyond ?

I would recommend a serious reality check first.

[redEva]

You are magnificent as always in the way you are willing to show your submission and belonging.

Branding is wonderful way to express your commitment (IMHO). I have been looking into it and first thing that you have to ask your self – how do you heal? How does your skin takes to scabs and marks?

Don’t kid yourself! No matter where you put it, and no matter how hot – it will hurt bad – it is burn. If you decide you do want to do it, find a professional salon and have it done professionally. They do branding with soldering iron, but all I saw of that method, did not impress me – it looks smudged and very thick, sort of clunky. If it was me – I would opt for classic iron, but still…. Go and check how they look after they healed. One girl I know attempted marking with home made iron (her “Master” did it himself) and iron looked really nice – small and graceful. She ended up with some smouldered burn mark – nothing to be proud off. Still, knowing you, this is something you most likely put your mind to, so …. from what I hear the most painful place would be your inner thigh!

Good luck dear, just … do look around and try to talk to ppl – I found chats for body mods and branding and people that say they have experience (no one ever said it does not hurt or I would have few myself by now hehe)

If you play it right, and for a fee – I’m sure you can find professional who would be willing to do it in a scene sort of a way … like in your dungeon or so… which would be my preference if I was in your shoes. Also, being securely tied for the procedure could be nice experience and helpful – as it would ensure that you do not move and ruin the brand. Plan to have some time off afterwards – as you want it to heal properly. Maybe we manage to get e.e. norcod’s attention in this thread – I’m sure he could give few good words of advice – as to what salve to use – as you do not want to use anything that will attempt to prevent scaring …

[slavelucy]

I would recommend a serious reality check first.

*raises an eyebrow*

i appreciate that it is a potentially risky area and you are voicing concern for a fellow member, but i think that's a little harsh. In posting here, i'd say Nikka WAS getting a 'reality check' as you put it, in that she's trying to find out information on the subject; which seems fairly sensible to me.

As for the actual question, i have no knowledge or experience of branding, so have nothing to add other than be sure to check it all out prior to any action. It certainly makes a change from the usual 'pre-wedding decisions'...flowers or balloons, top hats or none, branding or no branding

sl

[Lord Douche]

It certainly makes a change from the usual 'pre-wedding decisions'...flowers or balloons, top hats or none, branding or no branding

...how many metres of tightly bound rope can be hidden under the wedding gown...
"I've heard of hiding from the groom before the wedding, but from your maid? I need to help you dress!" ... "Just a minute! Damn these knots..."

I know they use Liquid Nitrogen to 'burn' off warts and associated things now. In my non-medical opinion it's probably safer too. Less chance of burning down the house, though Liquid Nitrogen might be harder to come by than a match and some carefully crafted metal.
LD

[slavelucy]

...how many metres of tightly bound rope can be hidden under the wedding gown...
"I've heard of hiding from the groom before the wedding, but from your maid? I need to help you dress!" ... "Just a minute! Damn these knots..."

I know they use Liquid Nitrogen to 'burn' off warts and associated things now. In my non-medical opinion it's probably safer too. Less chance of burning down the house, though Liquid Nitrogen might be harder to come by than a match and some carefully crafted metal.
LD

LOL! Yes, very good LD.

Ah, now, liquid nitrogen is something i do have experience of. i used to suffer from warts around one of my finger nails *does a witchy grimace*...and my GP suggested i try liquid nitrogen. i find it difficult to put the pain of it into words to be honest, it was blinding agony, so bad that i didn't even scream, i was just shocked into silence. Now, it's worth bearing in mind that i was fourteen years old and whilst i was starting to experiment with BDSM, i wasn't into pain. Having said that, i am still a right baby with any pain not related to Ds. The doctor also later told me that he'd 'forgot' to give me the painkillers i was supposed to take before the appointment. It may also be worth mentioning that the area was sore to start with and he had just ripped out the nail. i'd say this is countered however by the difference in sensitivity between the hands/fingers and inner thigh (or similar).

So, the upshot of all this...well...it's a pain that has never faded with time (as in, the memory of it), as most pains seem to do, but, from what i know of you (Nikka), i think you could probably take it, depending on how long the procedure would take etc.

This isn't much help in terms of the actual branding, i know, sorry.

*goes for a lie down having recounted the liquid nitrogen story*

sl

[AndrewBlack]

"It certainly makes a change from the usual 'pre-wedding decisions'...flowers or balloons, top hats or none, branding or no branding "

ROFL lucy!

To me liquid nitrogen has not got the same BDSM appeal as a red hot piece of metal to mark skin with, it's a bit too 'doctor' for me. If a brand left a nice neat, well demarcated mark like a tattoo I think I'd find that more appealling too. If it were me, I think I'd go for the tattoo. I'm very interested in any more info anyone digs up on real branding though.

[Jones, Nikka]

...It certainly makes a change from the usual 'pre-wedding decisions'...flowers or balloons, top hats or none, branding or no branding

LOL!
That was good slavelucy. The funny thing is that my mother keeps insisting that she will help me make every decision in planning the wedding. Oh God, if she only knew!

...how many metres of tightly bound rope can be hidden under the wedding gown...
"I've heard of hiding from the groom before the wedding, but from your maid? I need to help you dress!" ... "Just a minute! Damn these knots..."

As for my maid of honour, Lord Douche, she is one of the few people that know the extent of my relationship to F. To top it all, she works in the movie industry, and when she first heard we were engaged she asked if our wedding would have a Roman slave market theme. "I need to reserve the props is that is the case" she said.

[Dslave]

One other point of interest... I have had third degree burns on my body and they are very susceptible to airborne stuff so you need to not only be researching how to do it but what to do afterwards or you could end up with all sorts of bad things happening. Burns are pretty serious and especially if you are talking about deeply penetrating burns. You need to SERIOUSLY check into aftercare. I would strongly recommend getting ahold of some sterile bandages and some silver sulfdiazine cream (though, I believe it is prescription only so not sure how you do that) before you do anything.

[MrJerseyGuy]

My first wife wanted me to get her name tattooed on my body. I told her...maybe on our 50th wedding anniversary. It was a good choice!

[Mobius]

You can remove a tatue but I do not think you can remove a Branding. I of course hope your wedding is eternal and forever but you know what happens. Please be sure of this. I do not think it is such a good Idea.

Please be carefull

[Lord Douche]

As for my maid of honour, Lord Douche, she is one of the few people that know the extent of my relationship to F. To top it all, she works in the movie industry, and when she first heard we were engaged she asked if our wedding would have a Roman slave market theme. "I need to reserve the props is that is the case" she said.

Now that would be a wedding that might attract a bit more than just friends and family Just tell me where and when!
LD

[Finding_Fantasy]

I had a friend (online) who was branded for her Master a few years back. It actually wnet quite well for her. The main thing is to treat it like any other burn to avoid infections. That is what she advised (back then)...not that I was thinking about it.

They actually have people who do the brandings professionally just like any other body modification though they are bit tougher to find than your average tattoo artist or body piercer. I wish I could be of more help, but she lived in San Diego which might be a little further than you are willing to travel. If you want, I may be able to track her down and see what advise she has to give.

[albear]

How about etching? It's something I was reading about a while ago. Apparantly it's similar to scarification, essentially a scar. It's supposed to be more precise than branding, so you could have a more intricate or delicate design. Rings of Desire have some good info on it, and how to care for it.

[e.e. norcod]

Apologies to all my friends for my meager presence on these precints the last couple of months but moving from the South Coast to the North Coast has taken its toll.

About branding. Thermal burns (hot and cold) is an area that I am unfortunately all to familiar with professionally. All too many years of my life have been wrapped up in the consequences of and treatment of burns, generally in children. Perhaps I am too emotionally involved, even today, to give good advice. Branding is a variety of third degree burn inflicted with a hot piece of metal. It is best left as a drunken fraternity stunt engaged in by stupid adolescent males.

Go with a tatoo. It can be removed if at a later time you want to be rid of it. Removing the residua of a third degree burn (which a brand is) would require sophisticated reconstructive surgery. The guys and gals who repair tissue scarred by burns of this sort would rather spend their time and effort helping rebuild children crippled by fire.

Some sorts of exteme BDSM acts are best left to fiction. Our minds are the most awesome erotic organ ever developed. The plasticity of our minds allow us to explore erotic concepts that we could (and should) not actually experience in reality. Let us never confuse our erotic fantasies with reality and thereby cause injury that will ultimately have to either be lived with, or repaired. There is too much suffering in the world that we need to make right, too many injured children to be healed. Let us not add to the work load.

[Jones, Nikka]

...The guys and gals who repair tissue scarred by burns of this sort would rather spend their time and effort helping rebuild children crippled by fire...
...Some sorts of exteme BDSM acts are best left to fiction. Our minds are the most awesome erotic organ ever developed. The plasticity of our minds allow us to explore erotic concepts that we could (and should) not actually experience in reality. Let us never confuse our erotic fantasies with reality and thereby cause injury that will ultimately have to either be lived with, or repaired. There is too much suffering in the world that we need to make right, too many injured children to be healed. Let us not add to the work load.

Thank you very much for your advice, e.e.norcod. When you put it like that, well, it is a lot easier to disengage the erotic motor that sometimes seems to drive my every thought. I guess the word 'children' is what helped change my mind. I am a painslut. I am also trying to be a responsible painslut. And I will carefully consider your words.

[Jones, Nikka]

...There is hot branding and cold branding. If your research does not find out about Carbonic Ice and Liquid Nitrogen, you did not search enough. And you're in danger, IMHO...I would recommend a serious reality check first.

Merci, monsieur leforgeron, for your concern. And yes, I am doing more research but I also decided to put the question here in the forum, as I have always benefited from the great advice of fellow members.

Branding is wonderful way to express your commitment (IMHO). I have been looking into it and first thing that you have to ask your self – how do you heal? How does your skin takes to scabs and marks?

Good point redEva, I had not considered that. In my case my skin does not mark or scar very easily, so I guess the brand would have to be preety deep to be permanent. I also know it can not be a very small or delicate character as the skin will contract when healing and will deform the burn.
I think a lot more research into this will be needed.