Quote Originally Posted by himind View Post
If you're asking someone to give up his life or to take lives for the sake of you rreligion,I guess you are being misled.I mean, look at Manson, or the Aum sect in Japan...There other examples too but those would come under the grey area in between.There's this religious leader in India whio tells his followers not to seek medical help because he claims to treat all illnesses with cucumber juice and such. Now you may argue that people are doing this of their own free will,but aren't they being misled?Does freedon=m include the freedom to be fooled and taken for a ride without anyone to help you out in this?
You hit the nail on the head straight away. Thanks. Whether or not they're being fooled is the big question. But what if using that cucumber juice will lead to them going to heaven? Once you've opened the door to the possibility of the supernatural and a intelligent all-powerful being you've destroyed any platform from which to judge anybody. What if they are right and you wrong?

Since the whole basis of faith in religion requires that you don't scientifficaly scrutinize it, you have taken away your tools to attack the sects you are claiming are missleading others. Which religion is best or most correct? Which is most moraly upstanding?

If you judge those sects and you yourself are religious you are making claims that your gods moral code is superior to others. You have no basis for making this claim since you cannot prove whether your or the other god is the correct one. Naturally, because making a religious stand requires that you don't analyse evidence suporting the supernatural. See, it's a logical dilemma?

Or you could just say that you are right and they are wrong and base your prerogative on sheer numbers or superior fire-power. But then we're not discussing ethics any longer.

This whole dilemma evaporates if you call yourself atheist. Then we can judge them by how much actual damage they are causing. The biggest problem in the world today, I'd say is people activelly fooling themselves and ignoring evidence. The sects are just cashing in on the rampant ignorance.

hmm...I'm a bit tired. This looks tight at a glance, but please let me know if I've got any logical holes in this. I'm going to bed now. Good night world.